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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Edinburgh University to hand out pronoun badges

251 replies

BiologyIsReal · 26/08/2018 10:26

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/08/25/edinburgh-university-student-union-officials-hand-pronounbadges/

I will break every rule in MN's be nice to trans policy if I even make a comment.

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silentcrow · 26/08/2018 16:14

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Bizarrely enough I watched that episode with my daughter just last night Grin and now I have the theme tune stuck in my head. Ta for that!

UpstartCrow · 26/08/2018 16:20

subliminally we learn that a triangular sign warns of danger. So not a welcoming sign at all.

And a spiky logo looks aggressive.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/08/2018 16:21

My pronouns are - get tae fuck😆

Seriously - have students really got nothing better to do than humour this nonsense?

PimmsnLemonade · 26/08/2018 17:14

i live in Edinburgh and am frequently in/around Edinburgh uni/their students. i can confirm it will be a very, very small minority who involve themselves in this, thankfully.

Yes - Presuming it's optional, it looks like a great way to identify and avoid all the self-obsessed, regressive idiots during freshers' week.

GenderApostate · 26/08/2018 17:17

Can you imagine being their tutors?
I would have to stop myself saying “ I will use pronouns as I see fit - at your age I was checking under my car for IRA bombs every day, try getting a grip on reality” .

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2018 17:24

Not sure how it can be considered patronising to call girls, ‘girls’.

Not patronising. However, there is an argument that because of 'stereotype threat', there may be situations in which it could be genuinely unhelpful to remind them of their sex (eg girls taking maths exams may do worse if they're required to state their sex at the start of the paper).

FloralBunting · 26/08/2018 17:36

Chuckling at the idea that asking what pronouns people 'prefer' is now verboten because it 'implies pronouns are a preference rather than a necessity'.

Students, dears, there will come a time when you will likely have to decide whether or not surviving on a box of cornflakes for two weeks is possible. Come back and tell me all about the difference between preference and necessity then.

speakingwoman · 26/08/2018 18:21

the telegraph comments are very funny,

"I think you may have accidentally printed next year's April 1st article ?"

"Anyway, when I went to my GP and explained that I self identify as a man who looks like Brad Pitt, and could the NHS do the necessary please? He couldn't wait to throw me out of his consulting room! Just because I'm 30 kg overweight and have a face like a robbers dog shouldn't preclude me from having my identity reassigned surely?"

Lottapianos · 26/08/2018 18:22

'Chuckling at the idea that asking what pronouns people 'prefer' is now verboten because it 'implies pronouns are a preference rather than a necessity'. '

Sweet actual fucking sanity. This malarkey gets more deranged every day.

JellySlice · 26/08/2018 18:23

My pronouns are obvious.

That's all my badge would need to say.

speakingwoman · 26/08/2018 18:24

it's the policing of everyone else that's the problem isn't it? When I tell people I'm "Ms" I don't insist that they can't be Mr or Mrs.
It's a bit like bridezilla - transzilla, I suppose.

FloralBunting · 26/08/2018 18:31

Exactly that, speakingwoman. It's the phenomenally self regarding nonsense that pretends a personal preference means you be a total arse to the entire world around you until they comply with your wishes.

CarolDanvers · 26/08/2018 18:34

I'd laugh in their face. I know I would. Probs best I avoid those types so as not to cause offence.

Ihuntmonsters · 26/08/2018 18:52

My dd is off to university this year. The residents office has set up a Facebook group so that the students can get to know each other a bit before they arrive. So hundred of students have all put up a few pictures and a bit of a blurb about themselves. Mostly along the lines of 'hi I'm x, from x, going to study y, hobbies are x, y, and z, I love my cat/ dog/ rabbit, can't wait to meet everyone etc'. One individual has used the opportunity to tell everyone that they identify as non-binary, and they/them pronouns should be used (alongside pictures very very similar to those posted by every other female student). dd was massively cross with me when I referenced this individual as 'her' and commented that this was unlikely to be a good way to introduce yourself to a bunch of strangers. Most people find the wrong pronoun thing pretty alienating, a good flag to say that the person is most likely to bring trouble in their wake and is best avoided. I doubt that is really the aim.

Moanella · 26/08/2018 19:24

I'm going on an 'inclusion workshop' next week (NHS). Bracing myself.

groundcontroltomontydon · 26/08/2018 19:25

invent something really ridiculous and write that on them for a laugh
I fear the ridiculousness bar may have been set impossibly high

groundcontroltomontydon · 26/08/2018 19:39

My badge would say 'Stop looking at my tit'.
This makes me quite nostalgic for the 1980s when all we had to worry about was nuclear annihilation.

prunemerealgood · 26/08/2018 19:45

I’ve been advised I should put my pronouns in my Instagram bio because it’s easy and inclusive.
However, if I did, I’d be sending a message about myself that I don’t want to send, so no.
Very happy to respect someone’s choice in this matter but I’m not getting involved in perpetuating this.
I do feel alternately happy about freedom of expression and sorry that it is taking this form.

Trousered · 26/08/2018 19:49

This makes me quite nostalgic for the 1980s when all we had to worry about was nuclear annihilation.

Yes. We still are and this twerps are simply self obsessing into oblivion.

cantthinkofanythingfunnyagain · 26/08/2018 20:07

Oh help. I am going to Edinburgh Uni! As a mature student I am planning to totally avoid fresher's week, but I really hope I don't came across this kind of nonsense Confused

OlennasWimple · 26/08/2018 20:10

Time to buy shares in button manufacturing

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 20:17

ground Grin

sexnotgender · 26/08/2018 20:21

My pronouns are your royal highness/your majesty.
I’ll be most offended if they are not observed.

anniehm · 26/08/2018 20:32

I'm ticked off by my daughters for not understanding, being insensitive and being rude because the friend that I've known since she was eight decided 3 years ago she, was a he - well it's hard to remember to be honest. Well fast forward the clock to about 5 months ago and he is now to be referred to as she going forward. I'm thankful that she was too scared of her mother to consider taking hormones, which could have caused her lifelong problems. There's quite a few transgender youth here my kids know, a couple have taken hormones so far that I know of. I personally don't really understand, I know about chromosomes, which define me as female, I wasn't assigned, I am female. My kids will continue to be dismayed by my ignorance.