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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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seafret · 26/08/2018 23:16

Too many unfit people seeking power and being susceptible to and ignorant of abusive behaviours and techniques. How dare any of these peope think they have the right to demolish safeguards away from women and children.

Will they expect that poor girl victim to have to just shut up, if faced with a self-IDing male in a dress in her toilet space or changing room or sexual abuse service, else be denouced as a hateful bigot? Anyone who would force this on her would be DC's willing accomplice. Flat out evil.

Ereshkigal · 26/08/2018 23:18

Being from that background, but actively campaigning to remove safeguarding frameworks designed to try and protect people from abuse is another. It either says you lack capacity to understand the purpose and need for safeguarding - because of your upbringing or it says you don't value safeguarding frameworks - because of your upbringing.

THIS

It's not "transphobia" to point that out, woke kidz.

seafret · 26/08/2018 23:18

Sorry for typos.

seafret · 26/08/2018 23:20

Being from that background, but actively campaigning to remove safeguarding frameworks designed to try and protect people from abuse is another. It either says you lack capacity to understand the purpose and need for safeguarding - because of your upbringing or it says you don't value safeguarding frameworks - because of your upbringing.

THIS

It's not "transphobia" to point that out, woke kidz.

YY. These woke kids are a-fucking-sleep, groomed into a stupor

Destinysdaughter · 26/08/2018 23:22

LangCleg v good point about the lack of real life activism these days. It’s astonishing how much of an impact 2 women going to a swimming pool and a few pink stickers have had!

littlbrowndog · 26/08/2018 23:26

Daily mail covering it now with full detail

littlbrowndog · 26/08/2018 23:27

Aimee Challenor, 20, named her father, David, as her agent when she ran for Parliament in last year’s General Election and in council elections in May.

By then she knew the 50-year-old had been charged with abusing a ten-year-old girl held captive and forced to perform sex acts in the attic of the family home he shared with the aspiring politician.

SirVixofVixHall · 26/08/2018 23:27

Agree seafret. That little girl, a teenager now, will have to risk facing cross-dressing men, who count as trans according to Stonewall, in every previously single-sex space she might go into, if self id becomes law.

Badgerthebodger · 26/08/2018 23:33

I really had stepped away from gender criticalism because I have got an absolute metric fucktonne of shit raining on my head IRL right now and honestly just couldn’t cope but this has reeled me straight back in. I am appalled that we have got to a point where this is ok. If this was anyone else, any bog standard cunty woman, any man, anyone, there would be a national outcry. Why not now? Who pulls the strings? Aimee is so clearly not a person who should be within a million miles of a position where they advise on safeguarding. He hasn’t got a fucking clue what appropriate safeguarding looks like. Urgh.

lowtide · 26/08/2018 23:38

Be interesting to see if the guardian ever picks up on this.
BBC seem to avoid anything this controversial.

Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 01:05

Nope The Guardian is reporting stuff like this today. A woman MP thinks there’s should be caution about giving medical treatment to teens with ROGD and all the usual suspects jump all over it...

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/27/lgbt-activists-victoria-atkins-minister-women-trans-comments

Ereshkigal · 27/08/2018 02:31

FFS. Fuck off Fox and Owl. Do they really think most readers aren't rolling their eyes?

Ereshkigal · 27/08/2018 02:33

Victoria sounds quite sensible on this issue.

NotMeOhNo · 27/08/2018 02:41

AC and DC and TC sound like they formed an aggressive faction in the Coventry Greens. It would be interesting if whistle blowers steppwd forward to give their version of events. I can imagine that transwomen use their male privilege and victim privilege to steamroller over and intimidate any even querulous voices in the branch meetings.

Also the spelling of 'Amy' here is very cutesy and infant-like. An interesting choice given the context and the influences on the person. The smug, patronising expression in all the photos I've seen are at odds with your old school, diagnosed TS.

BettyFloop · 27/08/2018 02:52

Too many unfit people seeking power and being susceptible to and ignorant of abusive behaviours and techniques. How dare any of these peope think they have the right to demolish safeguards away from women and children.

^THIS^

The only addition I would make is male people.... We have to name it.

RedToothBrush · 27/08/2018 06:11

BettyFloop I disagree. Plenty of women too. The name 'Stella' is one that springs to mind with the phrase 'peer on peer'.

sashh · 27/08/2018 07:25

I wouldn’t be surprised if Aimee tried to get an injunction on this.

That's been alluded to on twitter.

RedToothBrush · 27/08/2018 07:47

If Aimee wants to try and get an injunction, that would be an interesting case. Apart from the fact, that ship has well and truly sailed and an attempt at an injunction would do anything but Streisand the story more, I would suspect that The Times might stick an oar in terms of there being a public interest because Aimee happens to have had a significant role in a major political party.

I find it difficult to work out what grounds Aimee could argue that would counter that fully.

Thats the problem if you stand for public office or have a influential role in a political party.

Remember Aimee's relationship with David wasn't just a family one. It was also a political one. The act of employing David as agent creates a big problem for Aimee in terms of trying to use the privacy card.

I would be surprised if a judge would look too favourably on Aimee as a result.

sashh · 27/08/2018 07:55

aimeechallenor.uk/statements.html statement from Aimee.

Strangely it talks about 'victims' not victim. I suppose that might mean the child's family.

borntobequiet · 27/08/2018 07:56

I have emailed Victoria Atkins thanking her for her stance.

sashh · 27/08/2018 08:22

New statement from the greens, not sure if was already been linked.

CaitlynsCat · 27/08/2018 08:23

Any ideas what this is about?

twitter.com/pstephens999/status/324144108736241664

"@ChallenorA your solicitor needs you to be in crown for 8.30 16 April2 013"

Crown Court?

Was Aimee in fact charged with cyber terrorism?

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/green-party-general-election-transgender-13092743

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 08:27

Aimee has campaigned to expel women from the party, put injunctions on other party members, provided technological means to harass, stalk and dox others. Aimee has put some women in real physical or economic (threat to jobs etc) danger.

Well put.

sashh · 27/08/2018 08:33

oops link

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/26/green-party-statement-aimee-challenor-stands-down-in-green-party-deputy-leadership-race/

Redtoothbrush the alluded to, injunction was before sentencing

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