Green Party statement

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Sorry it’s so tiny, I screenshotted it on my phone from Twitter! It’s a bit mealy mouthed...

AngryAttackKittens - thanks for the link. It doesn't tell the whole story, but the comments show that there are people who can fill in the gaps or make the unwritten connections.

ZeroFuchsiasGiven That video is really chilling.

Apparently Hope Pink* was going to demo outside the Challenors home or Green Party HQ today, but was served with an injunction last night.

• I do have some issues with Hope and the way he acts, but nevertheless this is another interesting little nugget.

Ha ha. The BBC that was going to challenge the judgement in the Cliff Richard case in the interests of a free press?
I’ve sent a link to this thread to the New York Times, they seem to like reporting on British political scandals. I wonder if there are any links to the US Green Party? IIRC they were implicated in some skullduggery in the 2016 US election.

The BBC's reasons for minimum reporting don't hold water.

Contrast the way the BBC covered Ben Stokes' trial with Challenor's. Stokes, an England cricketer, had a fight with another man and was arrested. The circumstances were no different to the thousands of arrests for fighting every weeked, but for the fact that Stokes is a sporting figure.

There was wall to wall coverage. There were updates from journalists standing outside the court. The BBC's coverage was bizarre unless you were a cricketing fan. Of course Ben Stokes' trial was a matter of interest to the public - but why did it have to go on and on and on, day after day?

Were there any journalists attending Challenor's trial at all? Did no-one think that the public would want to know about the accusations against a man who had access to even more children in Coventry?

What's wrong with people?

Anyone fancy tweeting Donald Trump? He loves a good overseas scandal

Have received exactly the same response from the BBC

Call me not surprised

I don't know if it's arrogance, to be fair. I imagine that the acceptance within the party community has been tremendously comforting and insulating over the last few years, which skews any sense of objectivity or proportion.

The really heinous element in all this is how a supposedly-progressive political party has ended up facilitating utterly grotesque abuse in its desperation to look 'woke' and cool.

The Daily Mail reported the original story and sentencing. I wonder why they aren't now reporting on the political link.

BitOfFun

It's grooming isn't it? People who groom take advantage of some vulnerability in their victim. In this case it's the desire to be nice and inclusive and (more cynically0 to be seen as nice and inclusive.

All the political parties have been groomed by those who would exploit the trans agenda. And many other organisations have as well

I do think arrogance plays a part, it’s a special kind of arrogance not usually found in women...
They think they’re untouchable.

The Daily Mail reported the original story and sentencing. I wonder why they aren't now reporting on the political link.

They put Kids Company on the slow burn. Then came out swinging and delivered a knock out punch.

Is it possible they have something like that in the pipeline ?

Maybe. I wonder what will happen if AC is actually elected deputy leader. As I understand some votes have already been cast? I'd be furious if I had voted for them in good faith whilst this information had been deliberately withheld. The Greens are utterly stupid for not telling AC to step back.

The utter arrogance of AC not to stand down is frankly staggering

It might not arrogance, We don't know what that camp has on the party, in terms of what they knew/did not know. We don't know what resources they have behind them.

It could simply be a case of having enough info to hand to know that resignation is not a needed option, because they can fight back, and take down several in the process if they don't play ball to ride the storm out.

That's not arrogance. That's the knowledge that one is untouchable, no matter how big the scandal.

Ladybirds, you are bang on. It is absolutely grooming.

On a wider scale, I feel that the TRA movement is grooming the entire media and educational establishment.

I wonder what will happen if AC is actually elected deputy leader

What were the odds before this ? Was AC a rank outsider, doing it more for profile raising reasons than any realistic hope of winning. Or was AC one of the favourites ?

I feel that the TRA movement is grooming the entire media and educational establishment.

You'd hope after the Brain Gym and Fish Oil fiascos there'd be a bit more critical thinking floating about when people with vested interests come sniffing around your school. But no, round eleventy billion of "lessons to be learned". Only this time the risks to the kids are a lot higher than wasted resources and fishy burps.

A couple of threads in AIBU:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3346996-AIBU-to-be-very-concerned-about-some-of-the-people-that-our-political-leaders-are-listening-to-Warning-includes-reference-to-child-sexual-abuse

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3346766-To-think-that-a-political-party-twigger-warning

If the mainstream media - with the honourable exception of the Sunday Times - aren't going to cover this, hopefully more people will become aware though Mumsnet.

Someone mentioned Ben Shapiro re getting this public - his contact address is [email protected].

I sent him an e-mail headed "Press Censorship" with a link to The Sun's report; explained the background and that the "quality press" are ignoring it; included a link to this thread and the Andrew Gilligan one and added that whilst he often disagrees with feminists these threads sum up the facts.

"So the torture and rape of a 10 year old is not newsworthy, let alone the link to a political party in the UK?"

Apparently not. And yet the police searching Cliff Richard's house was so newsworthy that the BBC sent a helicopter to film it. Look at the contrast: Cliff Richard was never arrested or charged. David Challenor has been convicted and sentenced to 22 years' imprisonment.

But there's endless hypocrisy here, isn't there? Look how quick the Green Party were to sack Olivia Palmer for supposedly "transphobic" abuse. And yet they were quite happy to allow a man charged with torturing a 10-year old girl to remain as an election agent for a candidate. Says a lot about their priorities, doesn't it?

LassWiADelicateAir

Do you have a boilerplate copy people could paste/personalise ?

Sometimes lots of people want to do stuff, but don't necessarily have the confidence to feel they can communicate the essential facts conscicly and persuasively.

I'll go scare up some other contact details, both twitter, and not twitter for those of us not allowed on twitter.

Yes I think it's really clear how Savile got away with it for so long. The BBCs lack of coverge of this extremely newsworthy story now looks less like incompetence and more like collusion in some way.
It does make you wonder how deep into the establishment the rot really goes.

I watched the PosieParker video and thought it was interesting how she said she didn't go into politics because of the indiscretions that get dragged up from your past when the background checks are done.
I'm similar- I'm involved on a very local scale but the thought of standing for any sort of election scares me because a) I don't really want to be in the public eye, b) I have got stuff in my past I wouldn't want dragged up ( nothing I'm ashamed of just private) and c) women in politics get such a horrible time on social media what with the rape threats etc. Not sure I'm up for all that.
But you know what, the more I find out (both personally and in the media) about exactly what kind of ego driven reprobates do stand for election, the more I wish that more ordinary women did stand.
So few councilors and politicians I have met have actually seemed sincere about anything other that progressing their own rise.

What are the TRAs saying about this on Twitter? Or are they keeping quiet?

I sent this. I also modified it slightly and sent it to Spiked.

Dear Mr Shapiro,

I attach a link to a report about a crime of exceptional and almost unbelievable depravity.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/7085352/david-challenor-rapist-tortured-girl-whip-electrocuted-coventry/amp/

The perpetrator is the father and electoral agent of a transgender Green Party deputy leader candidate. The house where the crimes were committed was and still is the official address of the Coventry branch of the Green Party

This has been reported only in the UK "red top" papers. The Times has only now 4 days later, reported it. There has been silence from the other "quality press" including the BBC.

These links give the full background. I appreciate that feminists are not always people you agree with but these threads explain the cover up going on in large sections of the British media, which I think will interest you

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3346448-Green-Party-statement?pg=1&order=

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3346800-Andrew-Gilligan-Sunday-Times-Challenor-Green-Party.

The only comment I saw from a TRA was Dr Harrop reporting people for 'targeted harrassment' when the link between AC and DC was first made after the sentencing. Even he has gone silent now that the full story has emerged and the GP has acknowledged the link.