We are different

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Is it wrong if me to feel like there are differences between men and women and that's what makes us human?

Aside from equal pay debate (I believe same job, same pay) and similar- I do believe that there are inherent, natural differences between men and women. But it doesn't seem ok to think this or say it anymore?!

I also feel like a lot of 'feminists' use that umbrella to man- bash. Don't get me wrong, I have known a good few awful men, I've also known a good few awful women. We can't tar everyone with the same brush?!

Thoughts?

Thanks Floral I've been here since 2015 and have lurked and contributed on threads on several boards (including FWR) I recently lost confidence though due to my answer to the question if I'd ever doubted myself. Posters thought I was a troll. ☹️

The thread is deleted now, so am feeling like I need some sort of MN blue tick equivalent to prove I don't have hairy knuckles.

I don't clean floors. I stubbornly walk over crunchy stickiness until DP realizes his Mother is visiting and then watch him vacuum like a demon.

My name was chosen in honour of a beating I took on Aibu, under a different name. FWR is a lovely, friendly and funny board compared to them! Quite why this board has the reputation of being the scary one is beyond me. I guess some posters bring their demons with then, because they're certainly not on here normally.

Remembered my password and managed to reset my name (again) 😀. I post here with three profiles on three separate email addresses, and because all the passwords melted my brain I set my computer to remember them, and I promptly forgot it. It means I’m stuck with whatever username is on the pad, laptop, or phone usually. Must find a better system, i’m confusing myself.
Anyone get the email about the GC meeting group in the North East? I’m going and will see anyone who was at the WPUK there.

Quick de-lurk from me to say I have appreciated the book recommendations and the links to previous threads.

I really really dig FWR!

kittens I will have you know that I have many, many talents. Mopping lichen is not one of them. I can, however, cultivate a nice mould on the yoghurt in the fridge.

Scififan, chin up old bean. I took all my man hating, troll hunting vengeance out on the damned bag of wasted defrosted food I had to throw out earlier. You're alright by me.

I think it's as simple as the people here don't take shit.
And women aren't supposed to do that

But that doesn't make it aggressive

There was a thread where I was assumed to be a misogynistic man. Didn't phase me much though, different people think different things and have different experiences . Still think I was right of course.

Ahem.

Piccalilli??

Datun Yeah, that's the trouble with lichen.

Just delurking to note the tribute to John Wyndham .

Back to lurking again...

Don't want to derail further but would like to address a few comments...

Firstly, I've not at any point stated that male suicide is 'women's fault', a 'gotcha', or compared it to murder - were these comments actually aimed at me or did I miss some discussion whilst skim reading the thread (didn't think I had).

The reason I mentioned the subject was to add some balance to the "women have it much harder" statement. I agree that it's our responsibility as men to tackle this issue (although some might say it's a human issue). However, us men already have difficulty in discussing our emotions and opening up without feeling like 'a wimp, and I think that giving out the message that "your challenges are nothing compared to others" can be very damaging, especially when those others have much better established support networks and less social stigma in discussing their issues.

I don't expect many to agree with me but I wanted to clarify my point

I don't own a mop anymore. We had the kitchen floor redone a couple of years ago and the builder did such a crap job we couldn't have a nice cleanable lino, so we have a manky bloody carpet in there now.

So I pitched the mop because I'm not going to keep it just because MIL says it's always useful.

The reason I mentioned the subject was to add some balance to the "women have it much harder" statement.

3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

13th rule of misogyny: Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves.

all day breakfast can you open up to your friends? Your partner? Do you tell your mum that you love her? Can you say "I'm feeling sad"? To anyone? I really hope there is someone who you're close to....

www.facebook.com/100000041398289/posts/2139835159361176/M

I've been saving this. Sofie Hagen explains feminism.

I think that giving out the message that "your challenges are nothing compared to others" can be very damaging.

Why is it that women, talking about issues that affect women giving the message that your challenges are nothing compared to others?
I see a lot of talk about male violence and how it affects women...on feminism board
And how the gender debate affects women...On the feminism board

And so on and so on.
I have never once, in two years of lurking, seen anyone imply that mens issues aren't important.
But I have seen an awful lot of outrage that men's concerns aren't put first or even put equally. On a FEMINISM board.
Here's an idea.
Why don't we accept that in this one place it's ok to talk about things that affect women?

GurlwiththeCurl

AllDayBreakfast

I'm sure many women are concerned about the male suicide rate. Look at Jessica Eaton. And the way that she describes the two sides to her compaigning.

When she's talking about the men she says, that's it. It starts and ends with her talking about the men. When she talks about the women, a whole load of people say what about the men? Every single time. Without fail.

Feminism is about the women. It starts and ends with women. It doesn't mean we can't, outside of feminism, think about the men. But that's not what feminism is for.

Some people struggle to accept that.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman

Are you sure that's the right link?

So unfair of women to focus on women's issues on the feminist part of a site aimed at mothers. Also unfair of women to point out that being murdered at the rate of 2 a week may be a teensy bit more of an issue than having a hard time expressing your feelings, in that it's hard to take steps to express your feelings better if you're dead.

(And were murdered by the people who think that having a hard time expressing their feelings is the issue that you ought to prioritize.)

Perfectly put by Datun.

Honestly, she's like some Greek goddess, gliding in, waving a succinct, neat piece on on point prose down and nailing it. I'm bloody knackered now after an evening of essay writing. I'm normally a little more sparing. I shall call it a night.

Odd how Lang's Weetabix banana Horror suddenly sounds quite appealing.

What do you mean, "quite"? Hmph.

So much posting on this thread. I just went off to direct my daily two minutes hate at the DH (it only turned into two hours today, so he got off lightly) and there are pages of it, with barely a bloody mention of Weetabix.