Let’s talk about how safeguarding is being disregarded

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It seems like safeguarding is being thrown out the window in favour of gender ideology.
Many of us on this site work in social care, teaching, health care and similar professions where we are well versed in safeguarding principles. Many of us struggle to see such a core framework thrown out in favour of protecting feelings.

Perhaps we should go through point by point and provide evidence of how and why safeguarding principles, procedures and practices are being thwarted and broken down?

Safeguarding children
www.gov.uk/topic/schools-colleges-childrens-services/safeguarding-children

Place mark as I'm interested in this debate.

You are correct. I find myself open-mouthed about it on a regular basis.

Sending people with penises into girls' and women's changing rooms and we're supposed to be fine with that...

My best friend is a teacher who until very recently had no idea of the scope of the threat to safeguarding that this kind of thing represents. I'm very interested in reading along for her sake as much as mine as a parent - she is passionate about protecting kids and has said she would be prepared to kick up the biggest fuss ever over this, to the point of career ending, if she is shown how deep the rabbit hole goes.

www.gov.uk/topic/schools-colleges-childrens-services/safeguarding-children

This is Safeguarding Adults
www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/adult-pocket-guide.pdf

From what I hear from those in SS the training rarely touches on safeguarding ...neally all is aimed at not being mean to the poor creatures.

Placemarking, as I am keen to learn more about this too x

It really worries me the regulations and policies that are being thrown out of the window in order to keep a small number of very demanding, domineering people happy.
It's not enough that they are being offered a separate private space to change, they want to be in with the girls.
Makes me very, very cross.

am i misremembering this or did the nspcc ok the girl guides new mixed sex / same gender policy?

This is one of the most dangerous issues facing children. These groups are gaslighting organisations in order to erode children's boundaries

Telling a child that if a man self IDs as a woman they must share changing rooms / undress etc alongside them. They have no right to say no as that's transphobic.
Trans organisations are unpicking safeguarding. Teachers apparently must affirm a 5 year old girl who says they're now a boy according to GIRES and Mermaids.
Teachers must keep all confidences about trans disclosures. Who cares if the child is suicidal, self harming or vulnerable? Trans organisations are only interested in pushing own views - forget vulnerable children if they get in the way of their ideology.
Medical experimentation on children. Way to go. Adults want to keep their genitals and self ID but let's make sure that every child is medicated and mutilated while they are young.

It shows how little care so many people have for children and young people that when it comes down to it, they allow the demands of these organisations to take precedence over the needs of children - every single bloody time.

Bump.

A very pertinent bump UpstartCrow

The Green Party scandal is demonstrating in real life what happens when those unsuitable to be around children are able to 'successfully' influence safeguarding and to remove long standing protections.

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The instruction to teachers not to disclose information about a child who may be trans is one of the biggest red flags to me - it flies in the face of so many fundamentals of keeping children safe

I can only apologise.

I have reported my last post.

Title: I will not pretend or ignore. From Saville, to Rotherham to Aimee Challoner

Wow Terf - that's powerful.

I've shared.

As a teacher the whole 'You must affirm & keep confidential' is terrifying.

Apart from the obvious, it also means you are being urged to ignore what is potentially a red flag (why is this child thinking about transitioning? Are there MH issues? Is there dysfunction/abuse in the home environment? - you won't be supported in thinking that, let alone saying it) AND it's an abuser's dream: wave the Trans wand and everyone is going to be running in circles of terrified wokeness and affirmation, in fear of being shamed/falling foul of guidelines.

There will be a scandal. And it won't be the Trans lobby, the organisations that pushed this, the political Parties who stamped the legislation that end up in the public stovks. It will be teachers, who were attempting to follow through an incredibly stupid and wrong directive.

And, of course, the children harmed in the process.

As a parent, I am concerned about the gaslighting coercion to ignore boundaries and what your own common sense tells you, pushed onto girls and women (and to a lesser extent, boys) at a legislative level.

That is an industrial-scale bit of safe-guarding erosion.

And I totally agree with what Lisa Muggeridge says in that video.

Bloody excellent thread.

I am training to become a childminder and recently attended safeguarding training.

During the first session it raised flags for me that this topic wasn't covered at all. I went to the second session ready to ask questions, but there was someone there who I believed to be a transwoman. I just didn't feel comfortable raising it in that situation - partly because I wanted to be sensitive and partly because I'm not as clued into this debate as others.

That video is so powerful, emotional and truthful.
Its what we've all being saying.

Such a powerful video- thank you for sharing.

I work in education and have done recent training in CSE - all the trans-affirmative stuff in secondary school seems to completely run against this.

I also have a very GNC daughter- I constantly worry that she is so vulnerable to all the trans nonsense but so far her boundaries are strong. We do talk about it all the time and I really hope I am doing enough.

Apart from the obvious, it also means you are being urged to ignore what is potentially a red flag (why is this child thinking about transitioning? Are there MH issues? Is there dysfunction/abuse in the home environment? - you won't be supported in thinking that, let alone saying it) AND it's an abuser's dream: wave the Trans wand and everyone is going to be running in circles of terrified wokeness and affirmation, in fear of being shamed/falling foul of guidelines.

Yes, this. The point of safeguarding should not be to tick safeguarding boxes, it should be to enable best practice to protect children - which means ongoing discussion is required and thinking through the implications of guidelines like the "affirm without question" demands of the TRA lobby.

For me (a teacher), this is ENTIRELY about safeguarding.

We have an INSET day on Safeguarding in a week's time and I will be bringing this up (I have already brought it up with Heads of Year).

This is a really important thread.

Can those who have safeguarding experience please look through your training materials or any documents you use online and find safeguarding directives that are being directly contravened?

At the moment there is much talk about how confidentiality should not be promised, for example, but for people who are writing to their MP’s, for example, it is vital to be able to cite concrete examples of where a safeguarding protocol is recommended, and then where it is is removed/ ignored.

Thank you.

I remember when I was visiting schools and one school I visited alongside the prospectus they handed out a booklet explaining all the things they have to look out for. All the warning signs etc . Including what to look out for regarding students say risk of fgm.

That is something that is do sex specific it's in direct conflict with what these people are now being told to do.no one was ever hurt or killed or mutilated because of their identity.

As previous posters have said when the advice is to affirm and punish those who mis gender and refuse to use pronouns etc then who the hell is going to be asking themselves, what the hell is so bad about being a girl that they have no choice but to identify out of it.

We can't even post pictures of our own kids on Facebook if there's another kid in the background. But a 60 year old man can be given access to girls getting changed by putting on a dress and teaching pe.

Getting into schools is like breaking into a bank. Locks and speakers by doors and signing in and out and teachers bring the kid to you you can't go to them.

But I can be a sex offender and go in and tell staff and kids that you don't have to be a gay boy you can be a straight trans woman.

I have 2 daughters and I'm terrified for them. Because the t word seems to be a cover for every thing that in any other circumstances would have you calling the police.