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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AIBU - Transgender family member

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SnartyFartBlast · 22/08/2018 20:35

I have a worry. My son is going to a swimming lesson and due to a scheduling issue the only person who can take him is a pre-op M2F famly member.
I’m worried about the changing room situation as I don’t want the other mum’s and their children to feel uncomfortable, and I also don’t want an incident with the family member to upset my son. He’s having trouble dealing with this as it is. I tried to move the swimming lessons but there are no other slots available. I asked the pool if there was an alternative changing room (say the disabled toilet) but they said the M2F should use the female changing room.
I feel so distressed. Is there anything I can do?

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TimeLady · 24/08/2018 06:59

This is interesting guidance, but lack of clarity in language is again causing confusion. The intention behind the statement is clear, but they've used gender (presumably because it sounds more polite) when they clearly mean sex.

Changing Rooms – If accompanying a child under the age of 8 into a changing room the correct changing room appropriate to the gender of the parent MUST be used.
All children over the age of 8 must use the changing rooms appropriate to their own gender.

www.dudley.gov.uk/see-and-do/centres-sports-clubs/dudleys-leisure-centres/crystal-leisure-centre/swimming-lessons/terms-and-conditions/

QuackPorridgeBacon · 24/08/2018 11:34

So basically his need to pass trumps your sons right to change in the appropriate place and women who don’t want to change in front of a male? He needs to get over himself and be willing to use the male changing area or do what others have suggested and change your son poolside then straight home in a dressing gown.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/08/2018 12:17

So when they completes surgery etc, will they be happy for a male bodied person the be naked next to them in the changing room? I

suspect not - so have some empathy for goodness sake, and consider those people who are there to use the facilities (women changing and child tying to have a swimming lesson). Sorry but they have not 'passed' the first test - thinking like a woman.

Fairenuff · 24/08/2018 12:25

'The intention behind the statement is clear, but they've used gender (presumably because it sounds more polite) when they clearly mean sex.'

You would think so wouldn't you. However I'm not so sure any more. Personally I would ask them to clarify.

TimeLady · 24/08/2018 20:50

Interestingly, my LA swimming pool offers

single-sex changing rooms with showers,

Flowers to them. I'd say that was pretty unambiguous.

SportsEngland, to their credit, also refers to sex, not gender

www.sportengland.org/media/4187/swimming-pools-dgn-2013.pdf (p34 onwards

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