BettyDuMonde
As usual Magdalen is amazing! Thank you.
"I saw some fb messages under a Pool (I know...) article today about how much nicer liberal feminists are because they want to include everyone and how nasty radical feminists are because they hate men (blah, blah) and then, of course, a load of woke men patting the lovely little lady on the head. It was so depressing."
Yes, this rings very true.
Datun
Thanks, I like this part "Equality would mean subjecting men to the same things that women are subjected to. Marriage to older women, cutting their genitals, two a week being killed by women, 85,000 a year being raped by women, etc. Feminism advocates to remove this, not duplicate it to achieve equality. "
As you just pointed out now that I read your second post, it fits very well with RBG clip. And yes, I follow him on Twitter already, book is already on my reading list :)
TheCountryGirl
"Yes there is obviously no subjugation of women when they outperformed boys at school, took more places at university yet still manage to somehow NOT be fairly represented in top positions in practically every company and organisation."
Amen to that. And cue Snu with the "it's their choice" reply :P
ReluctantCamper
That link about the husband stitch is sick.
Betty
"Of course men can be feminist allies."
Tbh I hate that term. It's the same term used by all those woke muppets "oh how can I be a better ally", "sorry I wasn't aware, just trying to be the best ally I can". It reeks of "tell me what to do and I will bend over backwards to do it as long as you give me a cookie". I support feminism to me is much better than I am a feminist ally.
IDontEatFriedTurtle
"Oh and re the OP I really don't see why you need to get in to a discussion with a woman ever to tell her definition of feminism is incorrect. That would be mansplaining."
Why? Ofc this thread was motivated by recent discussion on trans issues, how can I argue my case if I can't say that feminism by it's nature must exclude men? Also why would it be mansplaining if I am saying the truth? Feminism isn't for men. Many women thinking otherwise surely does not change that.
DrNu
I wasn't going to engage your trolling but: "So, the reason why we don't have more women as CEOs in the top 100 FTSE companies isn't because of a denial of opportunity, it's because they just don't want to."
Really man? You think there aren't 50 women in the UK who are talented and determined enough and hard working enough? And simultaneously you assume that a male board of directors is wholly unbiased choosing between a man and a woman? No, you're right, must be the "they are too lazy and untalented".
Finished page 5, going to bed now.