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BBC Children In Need withdraws funding from Glasgow rape crisis centre for 'not doing enough for men and boys'

93 replies

leyat · 08/08/2018 14:00

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16405729.glasgow-rape-crisis-has-been-forced-to-close-waiting-list-for-face-to-face-support/

This has happened to Abused Men in Scotland with funding from the Big Lottery Fund too apparently.

A worrying trend in funding being removed from single-sex services (and RCG isn't even single-sex, as they include transwomen, as they have to due to Scottish govt funding, but it's still not enough)

*There is a reminder at the bottom of the article that you can donate to your local rape centre, hopefully RCG gets a bunch of donations to allow them to open up their services to new service users again...

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ZuttZeVootEeVro · 08/08/2018 14:05

That's a really odd decision. I could see the point if the centre didn't provide a service for girls, but children in need withdrawing funding because they don't provide a service for men?

leyat · 08/08/2018 14:10

Apparently they are viewing single sex services are negative discrimination, despite the fact that 90% of rape victims are female. I hope the decision is reversed, especially considering the fact it has closed the service to new service users for the foreseeable....

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riiiiight · 08/08/2018 14:12

So because it can't help men it shouldn't have the option to help the FAR MORE girl victims? Is there a petition or something? I thought BBC was trying to shed it's "facilitates the rape and sexual assault of girls" reputation.

WaddIelikeapenguin · 08/08/2018 14:15

Does this not illustrate a massive problem of including transwomen (which they have to do because SNP) because it means you are excluding some males but not all.

SturdyEarmuffs · 08/08/2018 14:17

This is just cruel. Absurdly cruel.

heresyandwitchcraft · 08/08/2018 14:22

That's just outrageous.
How can Children in Need possibly think this is okay to do?
Charities obviously help specific groups! It would be just as bad to say "we'll stop donating to this cancer charity because what about the kids who have chronic conditions that aren't cancer?"
Ridiculous.

leyat · 08/08/2018 14:23

What they have said is that it is due to lack of provision for men, i.e. because they are a single-sex service (which they are still considered to be as a service despite the inclusion of transwomen). So it's not about the inclusion of transwomen, it's simply that the service doesn't offer services to anyone who is the victim of rape, regardless of sex. Which of course completely ignores not only that women are the vast majority of rape victims, but also that we need services where we don't encounter men. It's yet another measure of the lack of any understanding of the needs of women who are victims of male violence.

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QuizteamBleakley · 08/08/2018 14:24

What an absolute disgrace. There's a petition here, I don't know if there are others out there but this was the first one that came up when I searched.

leyat · 08/08/2018 14:25

(but the fact that transwomen are included in the service could of course be part of what is behind this, i.e. the idea that they are male and can be included, so being male can't be a problem; it will be interesting to hear now BBCCIN explains this, if they do...)

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seafret · 08/08/2018 14:30

Sickening. Punishing the abused women a second time by actively denyng, WITHHOLDING funds from them. Unforgiveable :(

Is there no group of men who could start their own centre?

I have gone right off Children in Need for other similar-ish reasons, but this out the nail in the coffin for me. Will only give directly from now on.

StroppyWoman · 08/08/2018 14:32

That is beyond crazy.
World class whataboutery from CIN. Surely there role is to ALSO fund something for boys who've survived sexual abuse, not withdraw funding for helping girls.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 14:33

This is a disgrace. MRAs I bet.

Isn't it Glasgow where the Romany girls are being open sold for child sex abuse and social services aren't doing anything?

theOtherPamAyres · 08/08/2018 14:43

BBC Children in Need wields enormous power.

And yet it is only the "middleman" (I use that word deliberately) - taking our cash and dispensing it to favoured projects, while taking gift aid to pay themselves.

Unlike the government, or local authorities, CIN is unaccountable. No-one voted their executives or trustees in. We can't vote them out.

This is such a good example of where a political and ideological agenda of a charity trashes services for women and children. Cash and gift-aid taxes flow towards the likes of Kid's Company and CIN rather than into the charities themselves.

Their power needs curbing. I'd like to see more people cut out the middleman - CIN, Red Nose Day, SportsAid etc - and give to small local projects.

CardsforKittens · 08/08/2018 14:44

This is appalling.

I've been trying to find more info: it seems to have originated in a White Ribbon Scotland post on Facebook and then been picked up by the Evening Times, but I don't see anything about it coming directly from Glasgow Rape Crisis... would we normally expect them to mention it on social media? Or am I just looking in the wrong places? (I like to check things out before I start shouting in my real voice.)

frogintheTyne · 08/08/2018 14:48

It's also reported in the Third Force news

thirdforcenews.org.uk/tfn-news/rape-crisis-group-faces-funding-threat

WaddIelikeapenguin · 08/08/2018 14:52

leyat yeah that's what i was getting at. Everything can go mixed sex because some males are already included. (Obviously not masons, peerages etc Hmm)
Who is there that cant understand why women dont want to be in the same space as unknown men for rape support?
Is it because men who have been raped by men would rather be in the company of women?

Ach sorry for waffle.

CardsforKittens · 08/08/2018 15:28

Thanks frogintheTyne.

This is a profoundly disturbing move from Children in Need and incredibly tone deaf at a time when charities are under scrutiny for their attitudes to violence against women and girls.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 08/08/2018 15:47

A few of my friends are now redirecting any donation they would have made to CIN to GRC.

leyat · 08/08/2018 15:52

That's awesome Norma.

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PyeWackets · 08/08/2018 16:03

..another service for women and girls destroyed, this really is a #waronwomen

birdsdestiny · 08/08/2018 16:06

We respond with the power that we have . Economic power. Do not donate to CIN donate to a local women's charity.

SturdyEarmuffs · 08/08/2018 16:09

Jessica Eaton on twitter says this:

If this is the reason CIN declined this grant fund they need to take a long hard look at themselves. How come when we are bid writing for women, you constantly get ‘what about the men?’ But I can win £650k for our male mental health centre and no one asked me about women once.

I'd like to know the answer to this too.

AncientLights · 08/08/2018 16:11

Why is Children in Need interested in men?

lostlemon · 08/08/2018 16:22

Agree with birds, just stop giving to these big organisations. As per other posters this along with all the other scandals facing charities confirms that it's much better to give locally. I hope that CIN see a hit to their fund raising if they do things like this.

On another note, given that CIN is BBC could this be linked to the make-up of the staff employed by them?

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 08/08/2018 16:32

There is a thread going at the moment about ninety-odd percent of chugger targets are women. Also when the kids were small I used to watch the telly and on every break of the programmes I watched was a harrowing charity appeal I'd have to try and protect my kids from, because they were targeting me as a woman. This leads me to conclude that although men have a much greater disposable income than women, women are more likely to give to charity.

So yes, how about we give directly? The small charities will get much more dosh.

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