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BBC Children In Need withdraws funding from Glasgow rape crisis centre for 'not doing enough for men and boys'

93 replies

leyat · 08/08/2018 14:00

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16405729.glasgow-rape-crisis-has-been-forced-to-close-waiting-list-for-face-to-face-support/

This has happened to Abused Men in Scotland with funding from the Big Lottery Fund too apparently.

A worrying trend in funding being removed from single-sex services (and RCG isn't even single-sex, as they include transwomen, as they have to due to Scottish govt funding, but it's still not enough)

*There is a reminder at the bottom of the article that you can donate to your local rape centre, hopefully RCG gets a bunch of donations to allow them to open up their services to new service users again...

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thebewilderness · 08/08/2018 23:48

They appear to have taken the bizarre position that all facilities must be unisex if they want grants from an organization that claims to be interested in helping "Children in Need".

ChattyLion · 09/08/2018 01:00

Completely agree that it makes the BBC look terrible at a time when they/CIN need to be actively supporting the multiple good causes who are doing their best to mitigate against VAWG.

These charities are almost all run on goodwill and basically fresh air, so a big funder like CIN disappearing will be very hard to replace. It will also be scaring the crap out of other women’s charities who have a single-sex public benefit, adding to the beleaguered climate. Sad

greathat · 09/08/2018 07:56

Would they stop giving to charities designed to reduce FGM too, as that helps females more than males?

KataraJean · 09/08/2018 08:24

I will write to CIN.
As I said, support from GRC gave me my life back. I am the mother of a DS. They helped him by doing that, because I need to be able to provide for him, not be off sick with PTSD.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 09/08/2018 08:29

Actually Rape crisis does provide a service for men by helping the women and girls they rape.

Bloody CIN. I give them what I can every year, I won't anymore.

theOtherPamAyres · 09/08/2018 10:20

Glasgow Rape Crisis has opened a JustGiving appeal, due to the number of enquiries about how people can donate.

Because of withdrawal of funding, their waiting list has been closed to new service users. The money raised will mean that the waiting list can be tackled.

www.justgiving.com/campaign/re-openOurWaitingList

happygolurkey · 09/08/2018 12:08

Just made a donation, and ticked the box for them to keep me informed of ways to help in future. I didn't know Abused Men in Scotland had lost funds too. A worrying trend - surely some services are better single sexed, as they can be tailored more appropriately?
think i have found a better way of spending my soon to be cancelled labour party subscription.

bd67th · 09/08/2018 12:45

This could work out in women's favour: a charity funded by direct public subscription wouldn't rely on grants with pomo conditions attached from middleman "charities", so would be free to stay single-sex.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 14:06

I agree and have said this several times on here already. So many reasons to do a bit of legwork and work out who is doing reliable grass roots work on a shoestring near to you - extortionate salaries; various abuse scandals; huge reserves kept instead of being used for funding causes; pomo takeover at leadership level, leading to highly questionable funding decisions.

YY. Some of the people I've known that worked for big charities have been some of the most arrogant, careerist, vacuous people I've met.

ChattyLion · 09/08/2018 14:45

MPs should know about this. There is an all party parliamentary group on sexual violence in Westminster: link below.
(Rape crisis are the secretariat of that one)
Likely to be a Scottish Parliament APPG too. Both worth letting know.

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/180718/sexual-violence.htm

ADarkandStormyKnight · 09/08/2018 15:18

Hurray! The Scottish Government are stepping in to fund the shortfall!

happygolurkey · 09/08/2018 15:47

hurrah! great that Scottish Government have stepped in.

This could work out in women's favour: a charity funded by direct public subscription wouldn't rely on grants with pomo conditions attached from middleman "charities", so would be free to stay single-sex.
Excellent point

and this
I agree and have said this several times on here already. So many reasons to do a bit of legwork and work out who is doing reliable grass roots work on a shoestring near to you - extortionate salaries; various abuse scandals; huge reserves kept instead of being used for funding causes; pomo takeover at leadership level, leading to highly questionable funding decisions..

MapleLeafRag · 09/08/2018 15:56

CIN off my donations list.

PyeWackets · 09/08/2018 16:00

Do CIN give money to mermaids?

SturdyEarmuffs · 09/08/2018 16:10

CIN still won't get a penny of money from me either. Appalling decision to defund in the 1st place.

TransExclusionaryMRA · 09/08/2018 16:24

I’m not exactly over the moon about this either, withdrawing funding from women’s charities isn’t actually helping any men!

bd67th · 09/08/2018 16:36

The crowdfunder website seems to be struggling right now.

YeTalkShiteHen · 09/08/2018 16:40

It’s because the Scottish government and many SNP voters have been vocal against the BBC.

Glad the shortfall is to be covered. I’ve shared the fundraising (direct not CIN) and donated.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 09/08/2018 16:44

I immediately donated to RCG upon hearing this yesterday, and will never again give money to BBC CiN.

Glad the Scottish Government have stepped in, but charities (and the Scottish Gov) need to have a long hard think about where this mindset of "equality", when we still have so much oppression to be tackled first, is taking them, and who it's helping.

terryleather · 09/08/2018 16:51

Noticed this too bd67th I've been trying to donate unsuccessfully for the past half hour..thought it was my shite broadband!

theOtherPamAyres · 09/08/2018 16:58

@PyeWackeyd asked whether CIN provides grants to Mermaids.

from a post by jgrobinson; (thanks jgrob)

BBC Children in Need currently spend £450k on transgender programmes:

£125,861 Mermaids
£115,953 Gendered Intelligence
£91,353 Leicester LGBT Centre
£74,541 Allsorts Youth Project
£30,000 The Proud Trust
£16,580 Hart Gables Tees Valley
£454,288 Total

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/psvxkB6QDMK63pgHmP5RJF/who-you-help

AngelsSins · 09/08/2018 17:03

Shame on you CIN and BBC, you're a fucking disgrace.

Yet again men showing that they will never support women, despite all the support women give men.

Oscarino · 10/08/2018 04:34

This explains the results of the Pink News "we rang women's shelters and they all said they were happy to offer their services to transwomen"

What else are they going to say? You either publicly renounce the right of women to female only spaces or you are labelled (counter revolutionary) transphobic and destroyed.

ChattyLion · 10/08/2018 06:15

While obviously it is great that the Scottish govt has stepped in that is with emergency funding- the BBC CIN Grant is reported as a three year grant so the govt funding isn’t a like -for-like replacement.
www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/scottish-government-pledges-35000-funding-15010160

beta.gov.scot/news/funding-for-rape-crisis/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-45137638

In which ^ article BBC Children in Need were quoted as saying:

^CiN said it had helped fund the service since 2012 but did not have enough money to grant all applications.
It also denied reports that the group was turned down because it did not do enough support male survivors of abuse.^
In a statement it said: "Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis' three-year grant recently came to the end of its term, and their subsequent application for new funding was unsuccessful.
"This decision was in no way connected to the support of male victims, we award grants to charities regardless of gender."

Hmm .. gender?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/2mRFsclbG1GkGK5LBynJP47/contact-us

ChattyLion · 10/08/2018 06:22

The statement that is making BBC CIN ‘sad’ is only on their Twitter not their website -they don’t seem to have any news or press releases section on the BBC CIN website- Hmm (poor transparency) but here it is:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/Y1vmpjYlzhw9grzSXr5wPP/glasgow-and-clyde-rape-crisis

(Pasted in full, hope that’s OK):

Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis
There have been a number of news reports today regarding Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis, a project we have been pleased to fund since 2012 and would welcome to apply to us again in the future.

Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis’ three-year grant from BBC Children in Need recently came to the end. They were able to submit a new application for funding for an additional three years, but after being considered by an independent assessor and the grants Committee for Scotland, were unsuccessful.

Contrary to reports in the news, this decision was in no way connected to the lack of support for male victims. We absolutely recognise the value of gender specific services in this vital area of work. This is why we funded Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis originally.

Ultimately, although the public are extremely generous in their support each year, within every grant round there are considerably more projects to fund than funds available and we simply don’t have the money to fund all of the projects that apply to us for grants. Our Committees have to make some really difficult decisions about which projects should be funded.

In this grant round BBC Children in Need received almost £3.5 million worth of applications for Scotland, with a budget of £1.8 million to spend. Inevitably the committee has to make some difficult decisions and although Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis’ latest grant application was fully assessed, it was unsuccessful simply because we don’t have the money to fund all of the projects that apply to us for grants.

Charities are invited to apply to us for grants of up to three years, most complete their project in the timescale, some are successful with continuation funding, but it is made clear that any further funding cannot be guaranteed. With the scale of demand, inevitably our voluntary committees have to make some really tough decisions.

Despite the Great British public’s kindness and generosity, applications for funding always outweigh the funding available. Turning down applications from organisations doing great work is very difficult and that is what drives us on to raise as much money as possible each year.

So, our decision not to award a third grant to Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis was not based on not working with male victims - we see and fully support the value of work with girls and young women who have experienced rape and sexual abuse. As a charity, we are proud to support a number of projects across that UK that specifically work to support female survivors of sexual abuse.

And we are also incredibly proud to be able to fund 313 projects to a value of £18.8 million in Scotland which go on to impact on the lives of children and young people, and will continue to work tirelessly to continue to make a difference.

These are tough times for many children and young people in the UK and where we can we want to be there to help them.

Anna Whitton
Director of Impact, BBC Children in Need

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