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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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silentcrow · 17/08/2018 08:46

The second is Garden Court Chambers' 2016 which has the timetable of the inaugural TELI conference. Garden Court Chambers have representatives on two of the three plenaries and both break out sessions.
The Garden Court team includes Stephanie Harrison QC who amongst her many achievements was appointed as legal counsel to the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

So. I had occasion to be looking for legal advice this week and came across the organisation Rights of Women, a charity which supplies legal advice to women and training to professionals. It looks very woman-focused - clearly stating they don't advise men, etc.

I had to check what I was seeing three times, but look who one of their funding sources is: rightsofwomen.org.uk/about-us/who-funds-us/

I wonder if their Board of Trustees: rightsofwomen.org.uk/about-us/who-are-we/our-board-of-trustees/

or their Patrons: rightsofwomen.org.uk/about-us/who-are-we/our-patrons/

are aware of this potential conflict of interest in one of their funding bodies? I don't have time to follow it up today as I'll be acting on some of their excellent advice, so if anyone's feeling in a letter-writing mood, please be my guest.

R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 09:08

In the course of reading about many trans rights organisations, charities, groups etc I have been struck by how often LLoyds Bank Foundation feature.

Melamin · 17/08/2018 09:13

twitter.com/UKTELI/status/969695440903041025

This TELI tweet still stands where Jess is described as an 'inspiring co-founder'

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 09:22

silentcrow

On a recent thread Stickerladiesoftheworldunite Due to see MP about GRA womens rights. Any advice? wrote:

"Thanks - the evidence around prisons is startling. I can't even begin to imagine what female prisoners have to face when such dangerous predators appear.

Who cares about those women? As long as the one violent rapist gets his way. It is sickening. "

Shouldn't 'Rights of Women', a charity which supplies legal advice to women be at the forefront of advocating for these women?

R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 10:32

Rose of Dawn comment:

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1030381075476963330

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 12:08

Feminist Current article
AUGUST 16, 2018 by HOLLY LAWFORD-SMITH & EMILY VICENDESE ,
'Penises don’t kill people, people with penises do
Everyone — including trans activists and allies — should demonstrate zero tolerance for perpetrators of violence and sexual misconduct, regardless of how they identify.'

"Jess Bradley, the first trans officer for the NUS in the UK, was recently suspended after pictures of an exposed penis in various public places were discovered on Bradley’s Tumblr blog. One of the photos appears to have been taken at what looks like Bradley’s desk. The blog, which has since been taken down, was called “Exhibitionizm” — referring to fetishes and fantasies that involve engaging in sexual acts in public (or in places where one might be seen or “caught”), such as flashing or masturbating.

Bradley has not denied ownership of the photos or penis, but has expressed confidence that the law has not been broken. A statement published by Bradley reads: “I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent.”

In an article published on Medium, an author writing under the pseudonym “Cursed E” argues that, with regard to the response to these allegations, Bradley is being wronged in two ways: first, by being “kink shamed,” and second, by being construed as representative of all transwomen. On the first, characterizing the deliberate public exposure of genitals for the purposes of sexual titillation to “kink shaming” is troubling. It implies that the act of an adult flashing their penis or masturbating publicly is harmless. As women and girls who have been subject this kind of sexual misconduct can attest, such behaviour is not harmless. Even if the perpetrator does not intend to be seen, risking being seen for the purpose of sexual arousal shows unacceptable disregard for those who are at risk of seeing. (continues)

concludes:
"We are interested in this information if it does indeed exist, but until we are presented with evidence, we think there is sufficient reason to keep certain spaces off limits to males. The burden of proof is on those who would like to make exceptions for some males, and not on us. Cases like Bradley’s are striking not because they represent transwomen, but because they show misconduct that is characteristically male, but not characteristic of females.

In the wake of #MeToo, writers like “Cursed E” should consider cases like Bradley’s as an opportunity to take a stand against male violence and sexual misconduct. Instead of going into damage control and using minimization tactics for political reasons, everyone — including trans activists and allies — should demonstrate zero tolerance for perpetrators of violence and sexual misconduct, regardless of how they identify or their political affiliation. The short term imperatives of securing the privacy, rights, and safety of those who identify as transgender — without jeopardizing the privacy, rights, and safety of females — should be something we can all agree on. And in the long run, males especially should work toward making male violence and sexual misconduct a thing of past, if they wish to obviate the need for sex-segregated spaces."
www.feministcurrent.com/2018/08/16/penises-dont-kill-people-people-penises/

Holly Lawford-Smith is a senior lecturer in Political Philosophy at the University of Melbourne.

Emily Vicendese is a PhD candidate in Philosophy at the University of Melbourne.

LondonLawyer · 17/08/2018 12:28

That's a very good article.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 17/08/2018 13:01

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I find it telling the 'women' with penises have a lot more in common with men with penises, than women with vaginas, when it comes to finding 'surprise penis' jokes amusing.
Here is a joke about unsolicited dick pics Jess Bradley is able to bond with other penis possessors over.

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 17/08/2018 13:03

Sadly a vagina woman doesn't seem in on it and able to bond in quite the same way. I wonder why?

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 17/08/2018 15:01

We were making dik dik jokes in the 90s.

So behind the times.

birdbandit · 17/08/2018 16:06

Does anyone know, are Teli (Jess Bradley) related in anyway to GIRES (gender identity research education society)?

Charliethefeminist · 17/08/2018 16:20

Two years ago Bernard Reed of Gires chaired a Teli introductory plenary session with Helen Belcher, Michelle Brewer etc. Two hours later Bradley was on the health plenary panel.

Charliethefeminist · 17/08/2018 16:21

I've met Bernard Reed. I don't often get creeped out but I was really unnerved. Extremely unsettled.

Vickyyyy · 17/08/2018 17:04

But I find it interesting just how many trans rights activists are so vocal at the same time about their sexual lives.

Quite. Its something thats just not acknowledged in TAR circles, meanwhile they flaunt their fetish all over the internet and noone is supposed to mention the autogynephilia aspect, or the just random pervs taking advantage and pushing for removal of womens boundaries aspect also.

(Not all TRAs are like that...etc etc, but many seem to be)

ChattyLion · 17/08/2018 17:16

Is Bernard Reed the same person as Terry Reed of GIRES- who is minimising the crap out of women’s objection to GRA reform?:

www.petertatchellfoundation.org/gender-recognition-act-time-for-reform/

Potplant2 · 17/08/2018 17:44

I believe Bernard and Terry Reed are a married couple (Terry’s female). They got into this lark because they have a trans son who became their daughter, who, interestingly doesn’t get mentioned any more and it’s unclear what their relationship with their child is like these days.

R0wantrees · 17/08/2018 18:27

Im fairly sure GIRES connections came up in the course of these three threads. As part of the discussion I think I linked some documents.

birdbandit · 17/08/2018 18:29

GIRES is where my kid's school is getting their advice from. Wondered if there is anything the school should be aware of.

Charliethefeminist · 17/08/2018 19:04

I would download the transgender trend school pack and give it to the head. Gires is creepy.

scepticalwoman · 17/08/2018 19:13

birdbandit
GIRES are promoting breaching safeguarding. One of their online training packs tells adults in schools to keep disclosures 'secret' and not to share - even for primary children. Some of their material about parents also presents them as 'wrong' for their views. They don't seem to go as far as removing parental rights that some 'guidance' does but challenging safeguarding is a massive red flag in terms of children's safety. I'd be asking a school why they are taking advice from an organisation that promotes setting this group of vulnerable children outside a school's safeguarding guidelines.

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/08/2018 19:44

This was a recent thread about GIRES schools information:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3322310-gires-school-resources

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/08/2018 15:33

Someone mentioned on a different thread about Jess Bradley saying "my vagina looks like a penis" in relation to The Vagina Monologues .. could anyone explain? I missed that.

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