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TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 20:01

When you see threads plopped into FWR, especially the curious repeat of well worn subjects, I recommend you check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads being referenced on twitter with screen shots & flagging in either MNHQ or outlets to try & get articles commissioned.

OP posts:
R0wantrees · 07/10/2018 18:15

there's a lot of key issues today

AngryAttackKittens · 07/10/2018 18:18

Couldn't resist the opportunity for a sing-along...

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 18:19

I've been a regular gym user for 25 years. The treadmill is my cardio machine of choice. Today, I had just pressed 'stop' after an hour on the treadmill when the random bloke on the next one decided to mansplain to me how to get access to the data on my heart rate - despite the fact that it was obvious from the data that I hadn't been testing my heart rate (I never do - those machines are not properly calibrated).

I smiled and attempted to move off, but he insisted on mansplaining even further.

Some people don't know when to let it go...

SpannerInTheWorks · 07/10/2018 18:20

Vicky I think that piece of research you're referring to is probably worth a look, thanks for the mention.

R0wantrees · 07/10/2018 18:22

I find myself 'making like Elsa' quite a lot.
Its not quite the Tao of Pooh but....

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 18:24

Bunbury is quite severe on the topic of 'people who allow themselves to be drawn into a long, drawn-out argument with those whose motive is not actual debate.'

LenGoodmansPickledWalnuts · 07/10/2018 18:53

Didn't RTFT 'cause 25 pages! but how do I check someone's posting history?

R0wantrees · 07/10/2018 18:55

advanced search & just fill in poster's name.

Its quite useful when someone has posted something interesting /link etc

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 18:56

ALL fucking day some people have been arguing the toss. With emphasis on the "toss".

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 18:59

Full of "gotcha!" comments...

R0wantrees · 07/10/2018 19:00

he papers today have been noteworthy, especially the Sunday Times.

AngryAttackKittens · 07/10/2018 19:01

I think all future contributions from me should be in song form.

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 19:02

How about 'My favourite waste of time'?

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2018 19:16

Bunbury is quite severe on the topic of 'people who allow themselves to be drawn into a long, drawn-out argument with those whose motive is not actual debate.'

I'm sure she is! Mea culpa. Thread nearly full now.

LangCleg · 07/10/2018 20:45

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

VickyEadie · 07/10/2018 20:47

Thank FUCK that's done with.

LangCleg · 07/10/2018 20:50

I hope I wasn't irritating you, Eresh m'dear.

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2018 21:11

Not at all. That was masterfully done!

arranfan · 08/10/2018 09:59

Watch out, watch out - there's a would-be screen-shotter about with their own Police PSA...

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/10/2018 10:58

Yup. Now deleted. OP was a PBP. Quelle surprise

arranfan · 08/10/2018 11:02

Research discusses the disruption of online social communities and highlights some repeated patterns of behaviour. I recommend the whole paper.


A research project involving Cornell and Stanford looked at ways to automate the classification of particular categories of poster: Antisocial Behavior in Online Discussion Communities

cs.stanford.edu/people/jure/pubs/trolls-icwsm15.pdf

There's a section that Germaine Bunbury might find relevant at present, it's almost as if there can be 'sleepers' who post for a while, matching the tone of other posts and then try and move that tone to a more hostile and aggressive one. One that might almost make it seem like there are "extremists on both sides":

Antisocial behavior, which includes trolling, flaming, and griefing, has been widely discussed in past literature. For instance, a troll has been defined as a person that engages in “negatively marked online behav- ior” (Hardaker 2010), or a user who initially pretends to be a legitimate participant but later attempts to disrupt the community (Donath 1999).

Empirically, we find that many of these banned users exhibit such behavior. Apart from insults and profan- ity, these include repeated attempts to bait users (“Ouch, ya got me. What’s Google?”), provoke arguments (“Liberalism truly breeds violence...this is evidence of that FACT”), or de- rail discussions (“All I want to know is...was there a broom involved in any shape or form?”).

...

How do (community disruptors) generate activity around themselves? Do [community disruptors] purposefully try to create discussions, or opportunis- tically respond to an on-going discussion? Here, we find that their behavior differs depending on the community (Figure 2a). On Breitbart and IGN, trolls are more likely to reply to others’ posts, but on CNN, they are more likely to start new discussions (t>9.1, p0.25). Still, across all communities, (community disruptors) appear to be effective at luring other users into potentially fruitless discussions...r

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/10/2018 12:48

Thanks arranfan

arranfan · 08/10/2018 15:43

Afternoon tea-time bump as it seems some posters might be finding FWR an outlet for idle hands...

VickyEadie · 08/10/2018 15:55

I do believe you're right. Being told to "Just get over it and stop hating" with regard to TRAs wanting their changing room of choice at the pool vs women not wanting to be raped.

arranfan · 08/10/2018 16:34

across all communities, (community disruptors) appear to be effective at luring other users into potentially fruitless discussions

It seems to be a trait amongst some recent posters. However, I admire the stamina of those posters who are mindful of lurkers and choose to engage.

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