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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

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CaitlynsCat · 29/07/2018 02:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

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Floisme · 29/07/2018 16:47

Which is why we need to hold the line that this is not a lone, rogue transwoman but someone who has the ear of the government, and judging by R0wan's link, the NHS too.

LaSquirrel · 29/07/2018 16:49

Any attempt to bring this situation up as an example of predatory males targeting bathrooms will be dismissed as “holding all TW responsible for the actions of one”.

The better card to play is the no true Scotsman, because of the 'non-binary' add on. Bradley just a bit too greedy with all of the identities.

iamawoman · 29/07/2018 16:51

its all going to be fine - hitler wasnt a vegetarian

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 16:51

Really excellent comment from leya on twitter

Yes the actions of one person are just that, their actions & their actions alone. But if the actions of that one person are consistent with a pattern for their sex, their sex becomes a meaningful context. Those who ask us to omit such context are essentially apologists.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 16:53

And another from leya:

Jess Bradley is the director of Action for Trans Health as well as NUS's trans officer. ATH is a taxpayer funded trans lobby group, cited 7 times in the W&E committee GRA report (after lobbying by Jess), & is a consultation partner for the NHS. This is who is being listened to.

arranfan · 29/07/2018 17:03

I wonder if the NHS will continue to fund ATH events and purchase ATH training?

neverendingstoreeeeee · 29/07/2018 17:04

No idea if anyone read that link that olenna provided, to the article written by Jess’s wife, but point 4 was particularly grim. How to clear your house of drugs and hundreds of condoms and proof of illegal behaviour if you might raided by the cops. Just ew. They seem like a nice couple.

leyat · 29/07/2018 17:07

If we are talking about sides in this, the fact that the right wing press will cover stories re predatory men, even when they 'identify' as women, but the leftwing press largely will not in the latter case, simply places feminists on the side of those media outlets whose coverage of predatory men is not conditional on how those men view themselves. It is to the shame of the leftwing media that they do not stand with us.

And re the responses from TA's online; what I have seen so far is that they are either saying Jess is not really trans, or that this is just one person so their actions should not be instructive. But the issue with that is firstly there is no such thing as true trans, since the whole basis for trans identity is that it is whatever it means to the person, and as such individuals can self identify. And the idea that this is 'just one person' is simply another attempt to deny Jess's actions as consistent with male pattern predatory behaviour, & as an example of how regardless of how a person identifies, it is the male body that is the threat, and regardless of how a male identifies,it is their sex that is instructive when considering who to include in female only spaces.

Also Jess's statement is very revealing; that they did not deny the disgusting posts and simply stated they felt they had not broken the law tells me that the blog and images were posted by Jess. I don't think they will in any way exonerated, and I do hope criminal charges have been filed.

R0wantrees · 29/07/2018 17:08

Floisme
Its worth looking at the people and organisations at both the NHS event and also TELI inaugural conference. There are many overlaps and prominant TRAs, organisations and charities.

Its important of course to acknowledge that this is just an allegation and the NUS investigation has started.

There havepreviously been a number of serious concerns raised publically about Jess Bradley and Action for Trans Health over a significant period of time.

Anlaf · 29/07/2018 17:09

Interesting- looks like the Sun were going to run this but did not due to threat of legal action (or cynical me thinks ability to turn into multiple stories: Union Official Flasher plus Sun Victory Over Free Speech)

www.thesun.co.uk/news/6883375/sun-barred-exposing-union-official-flasher-cliff-ruling

leyat · 29/07/2018 17:11

Tension I am Leya on Twitter btw waves :D

Indierockandroll · 29/07/2018 17:15

Has anybody else tried to comment on the DM article today? My friend and I have both tried - but neither comment (and one was shorter, so nothing deemed as breaking guidelines) has been published. We signed up especially....

It's stuck at 4 comments still on my feed and I'm wondering if flash and their legals could be trying to block more free speech.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 17:16

I was going to @ you leya, but for some reason didn't.

I actually felt like just copying you whole twitter a/c on this, brilliant observations.👍

TerfsUp · 29/07/2018 17:17

Isn't it peculiar how a transwoman seeing another person's penis would be triggered but a woman seeing a transwoman's penis should be a-ok with it.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 17:19

I noticed the comments were just 4.

In light of what the sun article says, it's even more remarkable that the mail published.

I would hazard a guess that the £24k union official hiring expensive sols to bury this must have got their interest peaked further. Looks like that pesky Streisand effect again...

VaggieMight · 29/07/2018 17:20

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at poster's request.

AntiqueOlive · 29/07/2018 17:21

The press don't like to be stymied. They will be looking for other stories.

birdbandit · 29/07/2018 17:25

It never happened, except for those times when it did happen. And when it did happen it wasn't Jess's fault....

Snapespeare · 29/07/2018 17:27

Of course if Bradley is disqualified from office as a result of an investigation, that leaves a vacancy... I think L. Madigan is currently a student?

R0wantrees · 29/07/2018 17:29

NUS Connect:
Jess Bradley, NUS Trans Officer article:
'There is nothing radical or feminist about transphobia'
Monday 25-09-2017

'Almost two weeks ago, at Speaker’s Corner, a punch was thrown. A scuffle ensued, was broken up, and then broke out upon social media'
(extract)
"Take another step back and you’ll see that this year is a crucial one for the trans movement. We are on the verge of some potentially important (if still deeply flawed) changes in the law and in healthcare. Anti-trans activists like Julia Long have been organising hard against these changes, turning up at healthcare consultations across the country to speak against any improvements, as well as harassing trans people on the way into the meetings with pickets outside. The event at Speaker’s Corner was put on to mobilise the anti-trans movement against these potential improvements for trans people. And by riling up the trans community and provoking that trans person to take a swing at someone in self-defence, they were able to get that crucial photograph. Now, the narrative is set: trans people are violent and anti-feminist, and the transphobes are the victims of misogynistic violence. It’s that age-old tactic of bigots everywhere; to make the bully out to be the victim.

Zoom out even further and you’ll see that this battle between TERFs and trans activists is part of a bigger war between the second wave of feminism, of which trans-exclusionary radical feminism is a notable tendency, and third and fourth wave feminism, which are more intersectional and inclusive in their approach. The key break between second wave feminism and those feminisms that came afterwards was its position on trans people and on sex work. So the wider context of the conflict underpinning the events at Speaker’s Corner are one of what the future of feminism looks like.

Looking at the TERF’s framing of this event as being about (male) violence against women, misogynistic violence, you’d be forgiven for not realising this conflict was not between women and misogynists, but one between two branches of feminism. This was compounded by the fact that most of their messaging around who was responsible for the counter-demo focused on the trans activist group London Action for Trans Health, even if it was jointly organised between them, Sisters Uncut, and feminists at Goldsmiths Students' Union. By doing so, the TERFs were able to conveniently ignore that some cis feminists had mobilised in solidarity with their trans sisters and siblings, and paint the conflict as one exclusively between trans people and women (with the implicit assertion that trans women are not, in fact, “real women”)." (continues)

www.nusconnect.org.uk/articles/there-is-nothing-radical-or-feminist-about-transphobia

VickyEadie · 29/07/2018 17:33

My choice from that Bradley article:

by riling up the trans community and provoking that trans person to take a swing at someone in self-defence, they were able to get that crucial photograph. Now, the narrative is set: trans people are violent and anti-feminist, and the transphobes are the victims of misogynistic violence. It’s that age-old tactic of bigots everywhere; to make the bully out to be the victim.

It's a quotation full of delights, isn't it?

arranfan · 29/07/2018 17:34

Disqualified from NUS but directorship of ATH? Do Nolan standards not obtain for charities/voluntary organisations?

ILikeyourHairyHands · 29/07/2018 17:36

Not a sausage from Owen Jones yet...

(Although no ban-hammer has been forthcoming so I can only imagine it's slipped his attention).

Indierockandroll · 29/07/2018 17:37

Just followed the reporter Jake Hurfurt on Twitter - he's a graduate trainee and puts so called seasoned reporters to shame.

VickyEadie · 29/07/2018 17:39

Indierockandroll

I no longer go near Twitter - what's he saying?

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