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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans women are women, is the biggest oxymoron ever written.

421 replies

happydappy2 · 24/07/2018 13:18

If trans women are women, then why do the words trans women exist? I don't understand how law can not be written in a way that recognises women as women and trans women as trans women.

Thus trans women are treated with respect and dignity, and so are women. This blurring of the lines is helping no one.

Who ever claimed that trans women are women? Unless we can differentiate between the 2 there will always be conflict. Is it too late for reality to kick in here?

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Jaxhog · 30/07/2018 17:30

I just hope this will turn out to an example of 'the Emperors new clothes', and that soon we'll see things as they really are, and not how a bunch of men in dresses think we should!

BettyDuMonde · 30/07/2018 17:32

I hate tights. All of them. Utterly detest them.

Does this make me a denier denier?

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 17:33

That just makes me think of those people who get their dog neutered and then get fake balls implanted so everyone will still know it's a male dog.

Shock
ErrolTheDragon · 30/07/2018 17:39

OT for sure, but yes, Neuticles ... their inventor won an Ignobel Prize for Medicine for them.

That gives me a thought... I bet we could come up with some nominations but maybe that should be another thread.

Bowlofbabelfish · 30/07/2018 17:47

Grin betty and transplants

Stocking it to ‘em...

AngryAttackKittens · 30/07/2018 17:53

The whole Neuticles thing is just...men are so weird. How do you feel threatened by the idea that your dog might be losing his masculinity?

VickyEadie · 30/07/2018 17:54

I must confess that I haven't read Serano, but I do enjoy their ham.

LangCleg · 30/07/2018 17:55

NEUTICLES

Christ Almighty. Every single day on here I find out a new thing that I absolutely would prefer to remain ignorant of!

BettyDuMonde · 30/07/2018 17:56

Vicky

Grin
AngryAttackKittens · 30/07/2018 18:01

Stick to the ham would be my suggestion.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/07/2018 18:04

Ham Grin
tights Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 30/07/2018 18:04

It's absurd, isn't it?

Mr Fragile Masculinity - I feel terrible about having Fido neutered. It really hurt his self-esteem, didn't it Fido? You'd feel better if we got you some nice fake balls, wouldn't you, Fido?

Fido - WALKIES NOW and also maybe a bone would be nice BUT FIRST WALKIES

thebewilderness · 30/07/2018 20:19

I can't wait till you google "truck nuts".

LangCleg · 30/07/2018 20:21

I am not googling truck nuts. Oh, no.

thebewilderness · 30/07/2018 20:23

Maybe do some reading? There are some excellent, very accessible, articles from TheQueerness. Or (as you clearly have time on your hands) try Burton, Lester, Dawson, Serano, Kaveney et al.

There is nothing that moves a woman to be critical of gender as rapidly as transgenders in their own words.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 20:31

"truck nuts" I dont know what I was expecting, but I was slightly relieved and grossed out all the same.

thebewilderness · 30/07/2018 20:33

I have asked these questions before. Still no answers, just accusations and diversions.

Can you mandate belief?
Can you codify into law the idea that some people can mind over matter themselves out of material reality and into the opposite sex and must be treated accordingly?
It is belief that no one actually believes.
Will you allow people to drug and mutilate children based on this belief that no one believes?
How will non believers and heretics be punished?

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 20:33

We've a constant supply of transpeople coming here telling us we're doing woman wrong. I don't need to go out of my way to find out more of their tedious ramblings.

TransplantsArePlants · 30/07/2018 20:38

Zutt

Indeed. It's all "I can't answer your question, but here: read this tedious polemic that is written as if it's an entry in the How Many Adjectives can a Woke Person Fit Into One Paragraph? Competition"

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 20:45

Sorry, I keep x posting with thebewild

Can you mandate belief?

This is one of the many problems I have. The government and tra seem to want to bring self id through the backdoor, with the minimum of fuss almost in secrect.

But how does that work? Are they assuming women won't notice? Or that once it's quietly explained to them they will say, "ok if it's the law, I'm fine with that"?

Are all parents going to be just fine with schools treating their children as the opposite sex and not telling them?

Are parents of teenage girls really going to be happy with them sharing rooms with male transchildren.

TerfsUp · 31/07/2018 07:19

We've a constant supply of transpeople coming here telling us we're doing woman wrong. I don't need to go out of my way to find out more of their tedious ramblings.

I just scroll by the mansplaining. It's as tedious online as it is in real life,

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