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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transwomen have periods too you know! Just no bleeding

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OrchidInTheSun · 13/07/2018 17:31

I give you the latest in batshittery:

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Sunflowersforever · 15/07/2018 11:19

That is beyond mad, and so insulting.

I get/got awful period pains. Now awful menopause.

To do with my womb and ovaries and eggs.

GardenGeek · 15/07/2018 11:35

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placemats · 15/07/2018 13:03

So if a trans man, has periods is this then transphobic?

BounceAndClimb · 15/07/2018 13:31

Placemats how could they argue that?
Its just someone biologically female having a natural body function.

OlennasWimple · 15/07/2018 13:51

No, when transmen have periods the narrative is that "it's not only women who bleed". See Toni the Tampon and its creator, Cass Clemmer for details

ErrolTheDragon · 15/07/2018 14:07

The main problem though, is the dismissal of women's bleeding. That small detail is the reason for horrible discrimination against menstruating women and girls - which of course still happens in some cultures - being considered ritually 'unclean'. The lack of sanpro in many countries is a huge practical problem for many women.

Wasn't there some problem a while back with a charity or campaign aimed at helping women in developing countries with this sort of thing being kyboshed by some self-obsessed TRAs branding it trans exclusionary?

BounceAndClimb · 15/07/2018 14:30

Well its not just one type of women that bleed, women and women who identify as transgender bleed. But it is still only biological females who bleed so that easily answers that for them..
I don't understand how a period is something to desire anyway Confused I'm female but enjoy not having them due to contraception, it doesn't make me feel any less 'womanly' just saves feeling rubbish a few days a month!

VickyEadie · 15/07/2018 14:55

I don't understand how a period is something to desire anyway confused I'm female but enjoy not having them due to contraception, it doesn't make me feel any less 'womanly' just saves feeling rubbish a few days a month!

That they see it as something to envy proves beyond doubt they've no idea what it is - in fact - like to be a woman.

LinoleumBlownapart · 15/07/2018 15:18

Exactly to desire period pains is like desiring to be burned with cigarettes. It's a fetish but to suggest that 1. They don't have them 2. They have no idea what it's like to have a period is now considered transphobic. That's why there's so many people willing to back up the madness on twitter. Being accused of being transphobic by pointing out madness puts many off. I don't care personally if someone wants to call me transphobic it won't make it true, just as if they said had a blue face it wouldn't make it real. People born male cannot have periods, fact, that's not transphobic. It doesn't upset or anger me that they have period symptoms. I couldn't care less if they want periods but I don't appreciate them attacking women and calling women transphobic or "terf" or other insults for pointing out the impossible.

We're all transphobic for suggesting it's impossible. So that's us told.

Mogleflop · 15/07/2018 15:31

I wonder what it feels like to try to convince yourself of this stuff.

Maybe it's that "if I can have periods then I'll be a real girl!" thing.

But you must also know it's not true - that periods are necessarily about menstruation, and you can't imagine yourself into one (as I remember well from the endless two week wait). So it can't ever really work deep down.

At what point after jumping into all this stuff do you begin to wish you hadn't? And once it's your entire public persona and community, how do you back down?

SimonBridges · 15/07/2018 15:32

When they first developed the pill (and by they I mean men) it was decided that women would need to have a period every fourth week for their mental health. There is no medical reason for it.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 15/07/2018 15:34

Of course they want periods.

We all know periods are glittery and girly and lots of fun, some cramping aside.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 15/07/2018 15:35

I always wear high heels and dresses and extra make up when I have mine, because I feel like a proper girl.

AmazingPostVoices · 15/07/2018 15:37

Thinking about that article I’m disturbed that the author suggested that gender critical women were challenging the idea of trans women having period because it makes us feel “powerful”.

That indicates an incredible depth of ignorance of the daily realities of managing periods for women all over the world.

HotRocker · 15/07/2018 15:37

I wonder if this person had to google period symptoms to know what to look for?
Internet self-diagnosis is such a dangerous thing.

AmazingPostVoices · 15/07/2018 15:39

I wonder if this person had to google period symptoms to know what to look for?

I thought that the description read rather like a teen magazine description of a period.

SimonBridges · 15/07/2018 15:39

What about other signs in your cycle, like EWCM?

Oh yes, periods are the lovely fluffy side of being female. My mooncup is full of unicorns and fairy dust.

DickTERFin · 15/07/2018 16:20

People with cluster B type personalities often have comorbid conditions such as Munchausen's and hypochondria. Just sayin'.

Sunflowersforever · 15/07/2018 16:42

It's just utterly bizarre. Probably one of the most bizarre things I've ever read.

DuggeesWoggle · 15/07/2018 16:58

Chardonnay if you're not wearing high heels, make up and dresses all the time then are you even a woman?

sociopathsunited · 15/07/2018 17:10

How about we all tell the TRA's EXACTLY what we do to resolve period pain, so they don't suffer as much as they clearly are? After all, the sisterhood demands that we share. I don't feel it's fair to keep the secrets away from them, what with us all being wummen together.

What I do is, get yourself at least one, if not two, scotch bonnet chillies and chop them finely, seeds and all. Shove the chopped chilli up your wazoo. If you're wazoo-less, then perhaps it could be rubbed liberally around the ahem special area......don't forget to wash your hands before you rub your eyes!

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 15/07/2018 17:16

I can knit?

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 15/07/2018 17:17

Mind you I don't knit all the time too.

This is getting worrying.

FlippinFumin · 15/07/2018 17:27

I could give them the benefit of the advice we were often told when I was a young girl with period pains.

What you should do, is get a dustpan and brush, and brush the stairs. This will pull your whatever is causing you the cramps, and apparently ease them. In my case it was the tightening of my womb to dispel the menstrual blood that caused my pain. That women were told this is a cure, says a hell of a lot about a woman's place. If this did not work straight away, you could move on to scrubbing the kitchen floor. Eventually you would be so knackered you would not be thinking about period pain. Alternatively you shut up about period pain in case anyone asked you to scrub the stairs and the kitchen floor, you suffered in silence.

I bet a pound to a penny no trans woman is going to be scrubbing the stairs to ease their period pain Grin

Fitflapflop · 15/07/2018 17:44

What the hell? So what else cramps in our bodies apart from the uterus to give us period pain?! Is he confusing period pain with javelin arse?