What can teachers and other professionals do to create a more gender free environment in our schools?

[SarahCarer]

As my dd is autistic and, as a result, Gender non Conforming (GNC) I thought I would share some thoughts about how to de-gender our schools.

Firstly, teachers need to find a way to address groups of children without saying "girls" or "boys" . This is commonplace in some schools and puts an unnatural focus onto a person's sex which is of no relevance at all in the context.

Secondly every school should have at least one unisex toilet which any pupil can use without special permission.

Thirdly school staff should avoid using the terms "good girl" or "good boy" Again the sex is of no relevance and the statement risks implying that they are being good because they are behaving in a way consistent with femininity or masculinity.

Fourthly ALL sexism and homophobia should be robustly challenged

Fifthly sex ed should not have gendered content

Sixthly there should be no organising of classes with reference to sex except in PE or for sex ed.

Any thoughts on these suggestions or suggestions for others?

These are some of the ways we can protect our autistic children from gender dysphoria (GD)

If your DD accepts her female biology, then why would she need a unisex toilet?

You are continually confusing stereotypes, sex and gender constructs.
You can't have a world where people are non gendered, it's impossible as it means pretending sex isn't a thing.

You can have one where there is no stereotyping, because that's a social construct.

I'm starting you think you started off trying to promote a gender neutral world, but as the thread has not been in favour you and have slowly changed to "from the start I only wanted to stop stereotyping".

"Yes boy or girl, because they are boy or girl...you keep bring sex into it." That's incorrect though isn't it. The reason why boys and girls are interleaved in this way has to do with their typical social behaviours, which is gender, not sex.

Noble I've already answered that question up thread.

The reason why boys and girls are interleaved in this way
Is to mix the children equally.

You don't want them mixed in groups by sex, or mixed equally around the room

What do you want?

But there are loads of girls with short hair who successfully manage to use girls toilets.

How do you think you will challenge gender stereotyping by saying ‘my DD has short hair so she can’t use the girls toilets’? Surely that’s just reinforcing it? She has short hair so she can’t use the girls toilets because girls have to have long hair?

I have been consistent throughout.

As my dd is autistic and, as a result, Gender non Conforming (GNC) I thought I would share some thoughts about how to de-gender our schools.

Firstly, teachers need to find a way to ADDRESS groups of children without saying "girls" or "boys" . This is commonplace in some schools and puts an unnatural focus onto a person's SEX which is of no relevance at all in the context.

Secondly every school should have at least ONE unisex toilet which any pupil can use without special permission.

Thirdly school staff should avoid using the terms "good girl" or "good boy" Again the SEX is of no relevance and the statement risks implying that they are being good because they are behaving in a way consistent with femininity or masculinity.

Fourthly ALL sexism and homophobia should be robustly challenged

Fifthly sex ed should not have GENDERED content

Sixthly there should be no ORGANISING OF CLASSES ACCORDING TO SEX to sex EXCEPT in PE OR FOR SEX ED

These are some of the ways we can protect our autistic children from gender dysphoria (GD)

But these behaviours won't change. Not unless we are allowed to look at the group's and say "yes actually I'm having to-do this because everyone's assumed two girls together will spend the lesson chatting. And I need these well behaved girls to break up the disruptive boys.

If we can't define these kids we can't get to the bottom of the problems.

But unisex loos have increased the incidents of voyeurism.

Why do we need them. What could possibly trump keeping the kids safe

As my dd is autistic and, as a result, Gender non Conforming (GNC)
It has nothing to do with autism.

Fifthly sex ed should not have GENDERED content

You've not explained this at all
Sixthly there should be no ORGANISING OF CLASSES ACCORDING TO SEX to sex EXCEPT in PE OR FOR SEX ED

This doesn't happen

And school already stamp out sexism and homophobia.

I have not changed one jot of what I have stated in my op and I understand exactly what I mean by sex and gender in each instant. Sex refers to biological sex. Gender refers to social norms and expectations including masculinity and femininity. Not everyone uses gender in this way; some use it interchangeably with sex.

I can’t think of anything that would reinforce gender dysphoria more than making kids who don’t conform to gender stereotypes regarding appearance use different toilets to their sex.

"As my dd is autistic and, as a result, Gender non Conforming (GNC)
It has nothing to do with autism." Again, a challenge I and others have already addressed upthread.

These are some of the ways we can protect our autistic children from gender dysphoria

I get it you are from the US aren't you?

Yes sex refers to biological sex. All kids will be girls or boys

So Why would you need a gender neutral unless you think that any boy who isn't masculine enough or any girl who isn't feminine enough need a to use them to avoid being challenged.

Isn't that enforcing the stereotypes?

Your idea seems to be "re-enforce gender stereotyping while removing sex"

"which any pupil CAN use without special permission." I have never had this experience of gaslighting before. It's frustrating. I'll leave it there.

Nah, you'd increase the incidence of gender dysphoria by introducing single sex toilets and calling girls other than by what they are .

And you haven't been consistent.

But why would they need to use it?

You don’t think the child always deliberately choosing to use the unisex toilet instead of the girls toilet would have any impact on their self-image? Rejecting their sex’s toilet?

Trolls, haters, goadyfucks, the lot of us.
Pretending we don't understand your ideas just to toy with you.
How dare we suggest anything but a world where people are actually referenced by there sex instead of called non-gendered!

How dare we want boys and girls to mix, or girls with short hair to be told they are the same as their peers.

Why I bet some of us even have sons or daughters and base out idea of their gender on their genitalia!