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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Monroe Bergdorf

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SirVixofVixHall · 10/07/2018 18:01

MB has tweeted that Mumsnet is a “Radicalisation Portal “ . Isn’t that something off Dr Who ? Does that mean I get to go in the Tardis with David Tennant ? #everycloud

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 10/07/2018 19:53

true self

Is having a 'true self' consistent with womanhood? Don't know about you lot but I had a girlhood full of damaging messages about how I was supposed to be selfless, then an adulthood full of caring responsibilities to the extent that now with two preschool children I have lost most of what 'sense of self' I had left. Currently I don't think I'd recognise my 'true self' if I met it on the street.

AncientLights · 10/07/2018 19:54

I though MB hasn't had 'bottom surgery'? Anyhow, I love the portal idea and my perfect portal would be the excitement of the back of the wardrobe in Narnia with Dr. Who on the other side. Not D. Tennant himself who, sadly, I can't get excited about, but his Doctor was devastatingly wonderful. Possibly a total narcissist to boot, but why break the habit of a lifetime? I'm sure I could deal with him as his assistant.

Sarahconnor1 · 10/07/2018 19:54

I wish they would disappear up their own portal...

Grin
UpstartCrow · 10/07/2018 20:00

Like many other posters who are working class, poor, and live on sink estates I was expecting MN to be a portal to a shiny new, white, middle class lifestyle.

All I have is this #ManFriday badge and a pretend beard. I want my money back.

AtreidesFreeWoman · 10/07/2018 20:03

Nah - true self imho is just a justification for "selfish fucker".

Doesn't matter the context.

A man leaving his kids and wife of 20 years for a younger model (literally in some cases) is finding his true self and true soulmate.

If your sole concern is your true self then frankly 99.9% of the time you're a narcissistic, egotistical asshole.

Most people are too busy dealing with real life to have the time to spout such rubbish.

We are busy cooking dinner, doing laundry, cleaning a home, doing childcare and on top of that earning a living with a full time job.

AtreidesFreeWoman · 10/07/2018 20:03

@UpstartCrow Grin

TheNoseyProject · 10/07/2018 20:04

I read that stylist article. I couldn’t get cross with someone so incoherent and confused.

boatyardblues · 10/07/2018 20:05

Generally, having babies and facing a world of shit for it is a feminist radicalisation portal all by itself. Not sure why it's such a shock to so many that a place called 'Mumsnet' would have a thriving feminist section.

Yes, motherhood certainly opens your eyes. Home births stuff the analogy up, but the delivery suite could be the portal.

If I had a Tardis, I’d like to visit the tidy, undusty, uncluttered version of my house and perhaps decamp there permanently, only switching to the next parallel universe version of it when the beds need changing* and the housework needs doing.

  • No, I am not a MN absolutist so I do not change my towels daily or wash my bedlinen every few days.
Hexcode16 · 10/07/2018 20:08

Ha, showing my age there! Don’t deny being middle aged, but like a fine wine I get better with age!Grin

pachyderm · 10/07/2018 20:08

www.bishopsstortfordcollege.org/194/fees-and-financial-matters

Munroe's alma mater, where fees for sixth form are over £6,000 PER TERM.

The thought of Munroe lecturing me about privilege is fucking hilarious. Let's see, not being British, working class upbringing, single parenthood oh and female.

TheBiologicalWoman · 10/07/2018 20:09

Damn it! I would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky men.

Can we do a Scooby Doo reveal when I pull off the mask of the aggressors and find there's a man underneath?

Does this portal lead to a Demagorgon (the monster we fear will kill.us) or a demagogue (the monster we fear will kill us)?

AnchorMum · 10/07/2018 20:17

Get out your golf clubs Munroe and literally "T" Off.
Grin

BeyondRaggydoll · 10/07/2018 20:19

Upstart, I was particularly looking forward to the downstairs toilet... :(

(In addition to the bathroom, not like those behind the kitchens in the old two up two downs)

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 10/07/2018 20:21

Nah - true self imho is just a justification for "selfish fucker".

Doesn't matter the context.

A man leaving his kids and wife of 20 years for a younger model (literally in some cases) is finding his true self and true soulmate.

If your sole concern is your true self then frankly 99.9% of the time you're a narcissistic, egotistical asshole.

Most people are too busy dealing with real life to have the time to spout such rubbish.

We are busy cooking dinner, doing laundry, cleaning a home, doing childcare and on top of that earning a living with a full time job.

This is poetry! Grin So bloody true. love it.

DickTERFin · 10/07/2018 20:30

Cor, a portal!

Can we also have some standing stones, etched with ancient runes and a special incantation to open the portal?

Can we all say things like "Well met by moonlight" and waft herbs about (I think, I've got some basil in the fridge that is past it's best, but might do for a spot of smudging)?

I thought MN was just somewhere to kill the spare twenty minutes between tea the bedtime onslaught, if I knew there was some portal shenanigans I'd be on here more often, I love a portal, me.

madja · 10/07/2018 20:31

Nah - true self imho is just a justification for "selfish fucker"
Too true.
Couldn't read that article either. Pile of self indulgent bullshit. Too many years of thinking me, me, me.
Disappear up your own portal indeed GrinGrin

madja · 10/07/2018 20:32

Oh and another working class pauper here Grin

UpstartCrow · 10/07/2018 20:33

BeyondRaggydoll the stupid thing is those enormous overhead cisterns and pulls are worth a freaking fortune now!

Datun · 10/07/2018 20:39

I'm dead impressed that understanding the difference between men and women is radical.

Fuck me, I'm a rebel.

NanaNoodleman · 10/07/2018 20:39

I think Munroe’s mummy and daddy should be suing bishops stortford college for all their money back.
Mind you, I don’t think the raw material they were asked to work with was up to much. How dim do you have to be to attack people for mindless prejudice using ... mindless prejudice?

Sarahconnor1 · 10/07/2018 20:42

Ironically because of Munroes upper middle class privilege some of these working class references are going to go straight over their head.

Intersectional my arse.

SockNRolla · 10/07/2018 20:51

I couldn't lurk without commenting on this one...
I came across Feminism Chat in January. My husband and I were watching CBB and were shocked at the way India spoke to some contestants and her sense of entitlement. I knew that MN would probably have a thread about CBB and ended up here.
I have found the posters in Feminism Chat to be level-headed, informative and inspiring. I have learnt a lot over the last six months about women's rights and now feel more educated on a broad spectrum of issues not related to trans issues.
Lurking here helped me to have a better experience during the later stages of my second pregnancy and to be more assertive during labour and aftercare in hospital.
I have not been radicalised, I feel empowered to be a woman now. I will not let anybody take that away from me now that I have found it.

Theinconstantgardener · 10/07/2018 20:56

I wish they would disappear up their own portal
Grin

NaturalBornWoman · 10/07/2018 20:57

Get out your golf clubs Munroe and literally "T" Off.

Grin
WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 10/07/2018 21:00

Step aside ladies, I've had plans for years now for David T to do a bit of sonic screw driving in my own portal of satan which lives in my knickers.