Lesbians protest at London Pride #getthelout

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These women are bloody brave, if I was wearing a hat I'd tip it to them

Orchid

Interesting

How very "male" to refer to reproductive organs as 'plumbing'

I am married to a transwoman who came out after we had a long heterosexual marriage. I have my whole life identified as heterosexual and never suggested there is any way I would want to have sex with a person with female type genitalia, whether naturally female or the approximation produced by gender reassignment surgery.

After my spouse had surgery I came under intense pressure to "just try" having sex with a person with female-appearing genitals by a gender specialising counsellor as "the person inside is the same and surely you don't let such superficial things stop you loving them?"

I was being pushed into having sex against my will. I felt violated. I had to very aggressively state "I am heterosexual. I do not want to have sex with someone who does not have a penis!"

I know from speaking to many other wives of men who have become trans women that the orthodoxy imposed on them is that they are now lesbians and must now have sex with someone with female-appearing genitals or they are guilty of "hate crime ". It is such bullshit.

I sympathise fully with this protest by lesbians against the pressure to have sex they do not want as I have been subject as a woman to pressure from the trans lobby to have sex I do not want, which is rape.

My spouse to be far was as horrified as I was at the pressure I was put under but many other long standing wives of trans women coming out are not so lucky.

No, no it's not. Nah. Nope. All the nopes in Nopeland.

^This! and LOL too

Those tactics are straight out of the abuser manual.

Thank you to all those who protested.

Hoping this raises the profile of this debate (I say 'debate' I can see much feminist debate but mainly slurs and threats of violence from misogonists).

The lesbians at Pride could simply choose not to sleep with trans women, there's no need to get in a big transphobic flap about it.

Trans women are not rapists. There is no rape culture.

I'll be proudly displaying a banner supporting our trans sisters at Brighton Pride 🏳️‍🌈

m.youtube.com/watch?v=jV2NP0paCZ8 this testimony is from a speaker at a wpuk talk who was affected by her male partner cross dressing and identifying as Trans.
I'm posting because she speaks about the fact that she was coming to the realization that she was a lesbian while in the relationship with this person.

It's quite hard to articulate why that should be a problem unless you understand that a lesbian is a female homosexual.

A lesbian is a female homosexual.

Yup. These women were extremely brave to demonstrate given the potential for physical attack and personal hounding by TRAs that we all know they will have risked by peacefully stating truthful facts at a Pride (or a lot of other public events/spaces really) in the current era.

The lesbians at Pride could simply choose not to sleep with trans women, there's no need to get in a big transphobic flap about it.

Yeah, but then they will still get called exclusionary and transphobic. They can't win really can they?

The lesbians at Pride could simply choose not to sleep with trans women, there's no need to get in a big transphobic flap about it.

They have chosen not to sleep with TW and for that they are called transphobic bigots.
Pressure is being put on lesbians to accept bioligical males as lesbians.

Why should female homosexuality be up for debate?

The person in the red dress is Morgane Oger

recent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269698-Morgane-Oger-is-campaigning-to-shut-down-a-rape-crisis-centre-in?

You can win if you get to the point of not caring what men think of you

It does seem shit though that so many people smugly collude with lesbians being ostracized from allsorts groups, school gay club, uni LGBT soc, workplace and union LGBT groups etc etc and now pride.

Just leave lesbians alone!

CosmicCanary I agree it's out of order what some TRAs have said on Twitter but to compare being transgender to being a rapist and calling it a 'rape culture' is really out of order, especially at Pride

Just leave lesbians alone!

Please please please do!! That goes for both TRAs and GC feminists.

What Avery Edison wrote is rape culture. Demanding that same sex attracted women consider sex with a penis is corrective rape. It is lesbian erasure.

Daimbars I am a lesbian. Please don't frame gender critical feminism as if it doesn't draw on lesbian feminist writing and activism.

To be clear when I say I am a lesbian I mean I am a female homosexual.

BlytheByName reading about this made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. To see 10 women causing such a stir is absolutely thrilling.

It reminded me of Christabel Pankhurst and Annie Kenney standing up in the Free Trade Hall that first time (also roundly hammered by the press of the day).

And yes where did this nonsense about Pride being inclusive come from? I had thought for a while that it was turning into a self congratulatory party for straight people - like me - to show off their wokeness but it didn't feel like my place to comment. I'm horrified to hear what's happening to lesbians and I wish you all the best in getting out.

There's a good debate going on underneath this Independent article, worth joining in if comments are still being accepted?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/anti-trans-protest-london-pride-parade-lgbt-gay-2018-march-lesbian-gay-rights-a8436506.html

Super I'm a lesbian too. A female born lesbian, never had any relationship with a trans woman in my life but the most grief I am getting at the moment is from GC feminists.

From Avery's essay: I felt giddy and proud to be objectified

Where to start with that?

To me, that makes it glaringly obvious that Avery's insight into being a woman comes only from the outside. Male gaze through and through.

And that's before we even get to Avery's manipulative sulk because a woman doesn't want to have penetrative sex with Avery's penis. Anyone who is nodding along in sympathy with Avery's predicatment badly needs to give their head a wobble, because that is one enormous flapping red flag about Avery's concpetion of women's boundaries.

As a PP said earlier, if the combination of genitals you're mashing together is the combination that could result in pregnancy, then it's not homosexual.

Ah there we go.

✔️ daimbars shows up to call "transphobia" on basic biological facts, say they're a lesbian over and over, centre it on them, and complain about gender criticism.

It's almost a full bingo card

ladygwen, I missed your post earlier, but yours is a story that I have heard before, and I am so sorry.

The pressure for women to be accepting of their husband's transitioning is immense (and based on weaponising feminine socialisation, which is a hideous, ironic, head fuck).

Is daim male or female though?

That's not morgane oger