A very compelling reason not to report rape

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www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/vulnerable-women-routinely-jailed-false-rape?bfsource=bbf_enuk&utm_term=.dqqYVQ8bn4#.xkj2yRPZQA

I feel sick. I can’t believe that the police and cps use the difficulties in securing rape convictions against women to convict them. Taking a mother away from her baby, causing a mentally ill woman to take her own life. I’m sure there is some sensational reporting here but I’m unsurprised.

What can we do? Is there anything to be done or is it just another big brick in the wall of stfu about rape and sexual assault ladies?

I did mention the debunk of the prof's nonsense might be lengthy - but not as long as her jackanory.

Shame isnt it golden

More to follow obvs....any questions? Do try to stay on subject ladies! 🙄

I’ve read the section. I understand the case. You’re faux humourous breakdown of why all the women are wrong not so much. Perhaps you could try in plain English and less words?

If the police fuck up it is not the job of the compainant to have to take the flak in order to cover up their incompetence. The woman in that case is in the buzz feed article and they took her away from her 9 month old breastfed baby. She’s a real human being, who’s life has been fucked with over and over again. Perhaps this can be acknowledged?

sawdustformypony: Resorting to personal attacks on an author is a surefire way to lose an argument. I could care less whether she is from America, Australia, or from Mars – the important thing is to engage with the issues. Or maybe you’re mocking her because you have a problem with women professors. You should take your offensive posts elsewhere.

The only substantive argument you made is based on a flawed premise. It is undisputed that the man Rhiannon accused was actually held in custody, and the CPS/police paid him off for that time. And all that was before Rhiannon was charged with PCJ. So yes, this case is quite odd – but these facts are not in dispute, and they support the need to hold the CPS to account.

Borisbike747: I agree; personal attacks are not cool. People do that when they can't argue on substance.

The whole point of this thread is holding the CPS to account for prosecuting vulnerable women. If there are things that are unclear or dubious about a case, that is a reason for more transparency and a full inquiry, not less. Why did the Attorney General just recently refuse to call a public inquiry into Eleanor's death? Is he afraid of what such an inquiry would show? He made that announcement right before the Buzzfeed article came out. Strange timing. Why, there had been calls for such an inquiry for months?

Now MPs are starting to express concern, thankfully. See Buzzfeed follow up:

www.buzzfeed.com/janebradley/mps-have-criticised-britains-overly-aggressive-prosecution?utm_term=.ooV2zpv6E#.oewyXv4qn

Perhaps you could try in plain English and less words?

OK, I'll give it a go....

In England & Wales you cannot hold someone in prison for a month without that person having been charged. When the professor says you can, she is lying.

www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights/how-long-you-can-be-held-in-custody

Legal or not, the man Rhiannon accused was held in custody for 37 days. Read all about it in the Guardian:
www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/05/law-graduate-guilty-falsely-accusing-boyfriend-rape

So the claim that the professor was lying is a lie.

Thanks for the link TulipsinParis - but the Guardian's article contradicts the Professor's paper. The issue is not whether the ex-boyfriend spent time in Prison - everyone agrees he did. The issue is whether he was charged or not. The Guardian says he was. The professor says not.

Ultimately, what I am asking is why was it that the Police decided to prosecute Brooker - and that is also what the Professor's account is seeking to explain. But her account is nonsense. A man being held lawfully on remand for 37 days before the CPS decide to discontinue with the prosecution is not going to worry the Police in the least - the average time for people spending time on remand is 10 weeks (70 days roughly) - many of those being acquitted at the end (according to the Prison Reform Trust).