How stressed are you about the loss of female-only spaces?

[DoctorW]

How stressed are you that the UK Govt may legalise self-declaration of sex, enabling any man to become legally female and gain access to female-only spaces such as refuges, sports, awards, jobs (e.g. performing smear tests), dormitories and lesbian groups?

We want to find out how big this issue is so we are running a poll to get a snapshot. This link takes you directly there. Please vote and share the link with friends so we can get as many participants as possible.

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Sorry to disappoint but, I’m not stressed at all (runs for cover)

DoctorW
I want to vote but dont do twitter. Any chance of a non twittery link please? Ta !

I'm not on twitter, but stressed isn't the word I'd use. More like fucking angry.

I'm not stressed. I'm very annoyed though .

I'm very concerned but am not on twitter so can't vote unfortunately.

Not stressed.

Worried about younger girls/women feeling insecure and threatened and being driven out of public toilets, although as they're cubicles I guess it's not a huge issue.

Men being allowed into women's changing rooms is a bigger issue. I'm not thrilled about it.

I'm more worried about the community groups for older people. There are a lot of ladies' groups, etc that cater for women who live on their own and want a bit of a social life. There is one for widowed older women. (It isn't just women - there are men in sheds for lonely men too (they can take women or not as they please at the moment). I was talking to a friend with an 87 year old husband with dementia - he enjoys a bit of man conversation occasionally as at that age, social groups are dominated by women.)
I hope that if I am on my own when I am older, I will still be able to join groups for company that are same sex.

I am not on Twitter.

Answer - Anxious.

Nice meme Dr Nic.

Please do a non twitter one!

Not stressed Dr Nic. Love your stuff, but this is appealing to socialisation of 'worried', not 'angry'. I know your poll allows traumatised/anxious as well as 'angry'.

I'm Angry.

I want to separate it from 'traumatised' and 'anxious' as they're stereotypically feminine traits.

Let me say, independently of any other emotions 'I'm angry'.
That OK?

(I realise I have no right really to do this as, instead of you, I'm here hiding on Mumsnet and I have so much admiration for you being out there doing what you're doing, so this isn't criticism, just feedback).

Is self identification going to be fluid so that essentially a person who authentically identifies as a man can ad hoc decide to infiltrate precious women's spaces as he sees fit and then self declare his male gender again?
Or is it that someone who has never been accepted in any space to speak of, will have the right to define themselves in a way we all take for granted, and upon doing, be permitted to share the space of those they identify with?
Nice scaremongering

will have the right to define themselves in a way we all take for granted, and upon doing, be permitted to share the space of those they identify with?

What about those other people? Shouldn't they have a say when it is an issue of safety, privacy and dignity?

Not stressed at all.

Self-declaration of sex will not enable men (or even transwomen) to gain access to female spaces such as refuges as the government has reaffirmed it is not changing the Equality Act and the exceptions within that act.

And as for women's sport - both the GRA and the EA exclude women's sport. So self-declaration will not affect it at all.

But interesting to see the number of women who are being mislead and caused unnecessary anxiety by these misleading posts - posts written by people who claim to be fighting for women's rights.

Not stressed at all.

Yeah, didn't really expect you to be.

I along with others have explained to Sarah on countless threads why there is a problem with self ID. Sarah has so far failed to engage with any of it, and imagines that any lurkers will be totes convinced by Sarah's winning sophistry and platitudes about the Equality Act. When Sarah would room 101 those exemptions in a heartbeat if that was on the table currently.

Actually really stressed... it keeps me awake at night....

And deeply sad, and confused....

And yes, angry and determined to do something and hoping it is not too late

Not stressed, not angry I'm LIVID.

Voted.

I'm very angry.

I'm a woman focused, woman centered second wave feminist who sees transgenderism as a men's rights movement to colonize humans, to colonize women by literally trying to jump into our skins.

It's men trying to possess something (nature and women and children) and to control.

I’m angry. Not stressed.

Seems to be happening already anyway, we should be fighting what is already going on not what is proposed.

@SarahAr like what you say, put it much better than me.

Also not stressed at all. I don't think many people will actually be directly effected.

When I went in for my hysterectomy damn right I wanted a sex segregated space.

And so did the blokes in the other waiting area, in their dressing gowns, waiting to be walked to theatre.

Like LM and Sarah, not really stressed. Self ID has been happening since transsexuals were a thing. Trans people have to enter female spaces in order to obtain a GRC. Any perverts using spaces for dubious purposes will be prosecuted as they are already.

Self ID will not be a law saying 'OK boys and girls, time to go and assault everyone!' As PP have already said, sports, shelters, etc are already rightly exempted and likely to remain so.

I don't have any problem whatsoever sharing spaces with transwoman. They are my friends.

Any perverts using spaces for dubious purposes will be prosecuted as they are already

And when people are told they can't even try to challenge them??