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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Group of ‘women’ attack a man

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sundaynamechange1 · 26/06/2018 12:24

Shared on LBC yeasterday
here
Have a good look at see what you think

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Voice0fReason · 26/06/2018 22:59

Madness, this is complete madness.
I can't even begin to express how wrong this is.

R0wantrees · 26/06/2018 23:02

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LangCleg · 26/06/2018 23:08

I am Bewilderness as much as I am Spartacus. Always and forever. Leave her alone.

Bespin · 26/06/2018 23:08

now im genuinely a little confused, is there some internal thing going on here that im not aware of, i am posting on this thread discussing the topic as best i can i was genuinely concerned why someone would take this view. tbh i am also concerned that trans activists pretend to be GC and present conflicting views i really do not hold with that approach and would support you all in removing people who do that.

WindowsSmindows · 26/06/2018 23:09

this is total madness but it's just the start of it I think it's going to get much much worse.

Picassospaintbrush · 26/06/2018 23:10

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/06/2018 23:13

bespin

Dont be confused love Smile

We just like thebewilderness

Bespin · 26/06/2018 23:15

oh well the personal stuff again, you seem to want to always derail the treads talking about any poster who does not have the same view than you and you seem to not focus on there comments but on them. This is not your forum and people have a equal right to post on them and to debate in good faith within the rules of the forum. you have a whole forum were you can all discuss us and be as personal as you want about us, but you do not get to do that here.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/06/2018 23:23

Oh

I thought i was being nice...

spontaneousgiventime · 26/06/2018 23:24

If they're women I'll eat my coffee mug.

Bespin · 26/06/2018 23:25

sorry rufus that was not aimed at you, i have always found you to be civil in any discussion, but there appears to be a group of people would seem to want to target people. i am not naive enough to realise that people on both sides are targeted on here. i would hope that it would be done through there arguments not on a personal level.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 23:27

I am also Bewildnerness!

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/06/2018 23:28

Sorry bespin

Bit tired and missing the flow as it were

And i see you points regarding 'not on a personal level'

Unfortunately I honestly believe that some of the posters on here are being picked off one by one

I rarely say anything reportable,.because im bloody careful Grin but also I'm not being reported because i dont put my head above the parapet

Bespin · 26/06/2018 23:32

in threads like this one and previous ones on here were not all the information as been released what i have normally said is shall we wait a little bit to have this debate when we all know the facts properly and we can then agree about stuff or disagree. this was certainly true with the youtube shooter and while i must say this does appear more stright forwards we have not seen the full incident or the people and while i can not see any reason why this level of violance would be justified and they do appear to be under the trans umbrella that seems to be clear. we debate so much every day we can come back to this with clearer information. i also did this with trans actervists in relation to hyde park and upset people because of that too

LighthouseSouth · 26/06/2018 23:34

Does anyone know whether the attackers would have spent the night in the cells and been released with bail, does that happen here? Having actually broken someone's eye socket I just wonder what happens.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/06/2018 23:35

No, we're not going to stop talking about this until you think it's time to do so.

Datun · 26/06/2018 23:35

bespin

I can assure you, categorically, that targetting people and reporting them, has not been a major characteristic of the feminist boards until recently.

Yes, there have occasionally been goady fuckers. But they have been dealt with swiftly by HQ. Generally accompanied by a creative and amusing deletion message.

This deliberate picking off people is new.

LighthouseSouth · 26/06/2018 23:36

Wow I wrote that badly
I have not broken anyone's anything!!

R0wantrees · 26/06/2018 23:39

As an aside, not a derail, I've just read an interesting article about Julie Bindel by Kathleen Stock (she is an academic philosopher) twitter.com/Docstockk

Its definitely worth reading in its entirety.

It concludes:
"The constant harping of progressive men on supposedly salutary examples like Bindel and Greer sends a message to natal women. Don’t say what you think. Don’t express an opinion on what women are; leave it to trans women to decide that. Don’t be assured. Don’t be bold. Don’t be whimsical or linguistically playful. Don’t try to be funny. Watch your mouth. Given the typical circumstances of female socialisation, natal women are already highly susceptible to such messages, and to feeling shame as a result. So here’s a task for any progressive males reading. Next time a natal woman expresses herself in a way you find unattractive, unseemly, unkind, or downright rude about trans people, then, assuming they aren’t “screaming it in a trans person’s face”: why not shut the fuck up and keep it to yourself."

LightofaSilveryMoon · 26/06/2018 23:43

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Bespin · 26/06/2018 23:46

i think its this sort of thing that is making any actual debate in any threads really difficult to have. people on both sides really dont want to hear what other people have to say on any topic they dont agree with.

i think that they people would have been detained especially the one who appears to be kicking the person in the face on the floor, though it will be unlikley we will get further information from the police as a criminal investigation is now underway, unless someone leaks details for whatever reason. either defence to get support which i feel would be misguided or from the victim who as the right to discuss this though the press will need to make sure it does not effect the case.

R0wantrees · 26/06/2018 23:47

Always good to hear your opinion.

thebewilderness · 26/06/2018 23:47

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Picassospaintbrush · 26/06/2018 23:50

Affect the case. Affect the case.

ChocAuVin · 26/06/2018 23:50

This is every single shade of fucked up.

It’s utter madness. So wrong. We are utterly screwed.