Group of ‘women’ attack a man

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Shared on LBC yeasterday
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SarahConnor1

That is incorrect. All you need to do to change the sex on your driving license is to tell them you identify as the other sex...

manfridayuk.org/2018/04/20/self-id-and-driving-licences/

@happydappy2 aye, the person I spoke to, did say he would have to do a freedom of information request.
I just feel very angry that male violence is being attributed to women!
It always ends up being our fault doesn't it?
Never mind the fact that women are the victims of men, however they present and their 'feels'.

Even if they have a GRC they sure do stomp on people like a man.

So this is what living in your new gender prior to getting a GRC looks like.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine

It's from the DVLA website I'm guessing what the manfriday chaps did is covered under statutory declaration.

"So whatever a passport or driving licence says if the police suspect they might be male they can and should ask for evidence to the contrary and legally it will not exist if they do not have a GRC."

???? Where do you get this from? The police couldn't care less about the subject's legal gender, and they aren't required to be.

They want to arrest criminals and not get picketed by TRAs.

Hence there is no way in hell that they are going to spend time working out if these thugs are in fact men. Just not worth their time.

I will be amazed if any of them have a GRC. They will still be thugs if they do. But the only even possible justification for recording this crime as being by women in any kind of record is if they all do. Which is staggeringly unlikely given the numbers and their young ages.

Recording correctly is very important and if police do not realise that and are not asking questions - assuming (as I trust) this vicious attack is to be prosecuted - then they do need reminding that self ID is NOT the law.

Caitlyn, if this goes to trial and the police have not bothered to uncover that rather basic piece of information - the actual sex of the culprits - the case could end up being jeopardised. Of course, they have to care if they are prosecuting - which I sure hope they are doing as this was a vicious gang attack.

Maybe its worth as many of us as possible contacting our MPs about this particular incident.....though mine seems to have stopped responding to me!

There are 13 year old guidelines on this from ACPO. It is not complicated to find this out.

www.lgbthistorymonth.org.uk/documents/ACPOGuideJul05.pdf

"If there is any question over the detained person’s gender you should ask the individual in which gender they wish to be addressed. A person who is 'en femme' may be comfortable with their male birth gender and wish to be treated as such. They may want to be addressed and dealt with as a female as that is the gender they identify with. Never assume sex or gender identity, each trans person will be unique in how they want to be treated. If asked sensitively you will not offend and you can simplify the process."

It is total nonsense that the police are concerned with 'legal gender'.

TRAs lobby for this stuff, they get what they want. And they've had it for the last 13 years.

Note that this all comes from the European Convention of Human Rights - more specifically how it is interpreted by modern judges. The 'right to privacy' is now taken to mean that it's an impossibly offensive abuse of human rights to check on these things. And of course it's all centred on the individual's rights, not those of the possibly hypothetical people they might come into contact with.

Within the context of platitudinous general human rights principles and modern TRA lobbying, much of what people on here imagine to be important simply isn't.

Is it important to identify a male rapist as a man - NO, it's seen as much more important not to brutally violate his human rights by describing him as a man.

That's just how human rights legislation works.

There's not really a solution to that, other than changing liberal thought, which certainly hasn't happened. (In less liberal past ages, the exact same legislation would NEVER have been interpreted to mean a man can declare himself a woman, and nor would that necessarily be the case in countries with more conservative judiciary.)

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The police will be very well aware of the biological sex but will still use the word women if the suspects identify as women. As do courts

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/radical-feminist-warned-refer-transgender-defendant-assault/amp/

He said: "The defendant wished to be referred to as a woman, so perhaps you could refer to her as 'she' for the purpose of the proceedings."

"en femme"

merde!

Anyone know how to take the entire media establishment to the Press Complaints Commission for continuing misrepresentation?

This is why allowing the legal fiction of changing sex , even though it was done in good faith (in the days of a handful of transsexuals) to protect them from violence, was a massive mistake.
We need to be able to state and record SEX. For crimes , but also for other situations in which women are particularly vulnerable.

I believe that some parts of the mainstream media may already be asking questions of the imposed guidance they have when reporting about people who are transgender.

See James Kirkup article:

(concludes)
"Surely a bright, thoughtful chap like {Stephen Doughty MP] didn’t mean to imply that it was his job as Member of Parliament to tell newspapers what they can and cannot write? Surely he had no intention of acting as if it is in any way appropriate for a politician to decide what is and is not acceptable for journalists to say, and how they say it? And I can only hope that it was by a simple accident that he singled out by name a female journalist and suggested that her employers stop her saying the things that she thinks – because Doughty happens not to like her saying those things?

As I say, I must assume that he meant none of these things, that he had no such moronic and bullying intent when he spoke and acted as he did. I assume that Doughty is an honourable politician determined to do his job in a democracy and ensure that matters of public policy are debated fully and honestly, whether or not some people find such debate offensive. Because, as I am sure Doughty knows, there is no right not be offended and if we ever let hurt feelings stop us discussing matters of public interest on the basis of the facts, everyone loses."

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

& watch the responses of newspaper editors to the Home Affairs Committee Kirkup is referring to above.

link in thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3233421-Home-Affairs-Committee-Hate-crime-enquiry-Newspaper-editors-interviewed

Not in my name

I am shaking with anger and horror here... an utterly vicious and horrid attack on all levels.... the ferocity was shocking.

For it then to be attributed to women when they are clearly male is so very shocking on so very many levels......

This has gone too far..... How have the police ever agreed to count crimes committed by males as crimes committed by women, just on the say so of the male committing the crime? I knew this was happening but until I saw the guidance above, I hadn't realised that anyone could "self-id" as female to the police.... How has this happened?

And echoing LangCleg

Good job this never happens! Otherwise this might have happened.

@DJLippy I'be not read all the comments but I can't believe the press do not have a duty to tell the truth. The truth is the people on the video stomping on a make are also male. Male on male violence. It should be called what it is.

I'd happily stop using the label 'woman' for myself and just use female if all the makes would do like wise.

Those thugs should not have been released, they might put on jeans and t-shirts and disappear!

WPUK demands:

Respectful and evidence-based discussion about the impact of the proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act to be allowed to take place and for women’s voices to be heard.

The principle of women-only spaces to be upheld – and where necessary extended.

A review of how the exemptions in the Equality Act which allow or single sex services or requirements that only a woman can apply for a job (such as in a domestic violence refuge) are being applied in practice.

Government to consult with women’s organisations on how self-declaration would impact on women-only services and spaces.

Government to consult on how self-declaration will impact upon data gathering – such as crime , employment, pay and health statistics – and monitoring of sex-based discrimination such as the gender pay gap

womansplaceuk.org/our-demands-2/

See also current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3288963-Terfs-are-the-Incels-of-feminism

"Lesbians Attacked By Trans Activists At San Francisco Dyke March'

"Reports are coming in of a series of violent attacks on lesbian marchers at yesterday’s San Francisco Dyke March 2018. The women were targeted on the basis of their signs which referenced lesbianism as a female-specific orientation. These signs offended the heterosexual transgender marchers who believe males should have the prerogative to “identify as” lesbian and that women who reject this premise should be targeted for violence."

All it takes to get a GRC these days is a "gender clinic" to sign off on your intent to gender reassign.
Transgender advocates worked hard to make it easy for anyone to transition.
This is the result.

DJ: it is IPSO now - I attach an image from their interaction with AllAboutTrans.

homefromthehills

This gaslighting is rude and crude. Your wishful thinking in light of this crime is inappropriate. Seriously! A crime has been committed and you are bleating the 10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

DjLippy PCC doesn't exist anymore. It was replaced by IPSO and complaints generally have to involve in individual person or organisation, not a general group

That ain't a bunch of women.

I wonder if any TV channel would be willing to cover these kinds of things so the general public can see how farcical this has all now gotten! Which TV channel will have the balls to expose all this? (I mean this specific aspect of it - media misinformation... etc).