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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posters jumping before they're pushed

455 replies

spontaneousgiventime · 24/06/2018 23:22

Well MNHQ we have the start of the exodus. Posters leaving due to these new guidelines that throw women under the bus.

A poster has deleted their account today due to the upset and stress of getting a strike for saying something that is 100% true. We know it's true because TRA's posted it on Twitter themselves, yet we post it and it's kick off time at HQ

It's a fucking disgrace HQ WOMEN are your target audience yet you don't give a fucking shiny shit about us. Not a fucking shit and it stinks.

More and more women will leave and you will be left with nothing more than people who present as opposite to their birth sex sitting posting about heels, make-up, clothes and fucking knitting.

Good luck with that one.

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Acorninspring · 25/06/2018 07:50

Hi could I also have a pm about the other place? I don't post lots but do read a lot. Thanks.

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 07:52

These people have got the UN and the EU to bend to their will. Mumsnet did well to hold out for so long. Astonishing really when you think of the wealth, power and planning behind this movement.

busyboysmum · 25/06/2018 08:04

I would love a pm for the other place. After my strikes for no reason I no longer wish to be part of MN.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 25/06/2018 08:07

They are picking people off

That seems very very obvious

TimeLady · 25/06/2018 08:09

Personally I believe the phrase ' transwomen are women ' is an offensive lie.

MsSensibleWay · 25/06/2018 08:11

I'm a serial name changer and occasional poster, I've definitely noticed the regulars disappearing. It's become a less interesting place to lurk now everyone is holding back on what they want to say, and I think for every GC poster there are hundreds of lurkers thinking the same thing who wouldn't post but would sign petitions and donate money and complain to the BBC etc.
The momentum has gone.

Ifonlyus · 25/06/2018 08:18

MN will keep going because of all the huns that have joined following the lazy DM journo articles. So true. I recently did a google search on 'appropriate age to let a child watch Love Island' as my DD claims her fellow Y7s watch it. Netmums posters honestly had a more critical stance against it than some of the MN posters.

Mumsnet - lose your most educated, intelligent posters at your peril. Not everything lasts forever. MN already isn't the place it was 7 -14 years ago. Feminism Chat is where I hang out most now my DDs are teenagers, but it brings me to the site and whilst here I inevitably end up on other sections.

Ifonlyus · 25/06/2018 08:19

Also - could I have a PM for the other place?

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:24

There's still plenty of momentum, it's just moving into real life stuff like Man Friday, and organization will probably also happen more in other places now. I suspect MNHQ will regret losing their courage at the last moment over this issue.

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 08:26

Angry you are soooo right. It's moving into real life and we are losing our real life fear by meeting each other and giving each other courage.

HappensInHumans · 25/06/2018 08:26

I see as many anti feminists post on here as I do feminists. It will eventually be renamed men's rights, and you will have the F4J crew joining.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:29

Penis rights. Subheading - Is there anything more important than a penis that nobody's paying attention to?

Ereshkigal · 25/06/2018 08:31

Yes I think "Penis Rights" is the more inclusive term. Like "Anyone with a Cervix".

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 08:32

I know it's serious but do you ever have such a flash of WHAT THE FUCK that you find it hard to actually take seriously?

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:32

There can be a sticky called "What Can You Do For Local Penises Today?"

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:34

Oh yeah, Pratchet, "this is fucking ridiculous, ffs, how is anyone taking this shit seriously?" is pretty much always on the tip of my tongue. Female penises. Try saying that to someone irl and see what kind of looks they give you.

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 08:37

Bless the ballsacks for they shall inherit. I need to deal with my husband about this.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:39

Mine spat out a mouthful of coffee the first time I told him that there were people who believe that cocks can be female.

picklemepopcorn · 25/06/2018 08:41

To be fair, people are still free to post in every other way, about every other topic. We can still get support here re DV, conception, bereavement, periods etc. We can still mention female biology and issues. We can in fact completely ignore the GFs, ignore people whose gender confusion is rammed down our throats, and continue to engage with each other in the anonymous way we do disregarding the sex and gender identity of posters.

I think a strategic withdrawal, recovery, refreshment, before returning to the front lines would be quite helpful for a lot of people. I still feel as strongly as ever, and mention my concerns in passing in real life. On MN however, I've temporarily backed away from the hot topic and feel much better for it.

Certain people will continue to behave in a visible, ridiculous way and their behaviour will speak for itself.

Agrona · 25/06/2018 08:42

I know I post rarely but I love the intelligent, articulate women who help me sort out the truth from the carefully constructed lies. May I have a PM for the other place too? Please?

AngryAttackKittens · 25/06/2018 08:44

There is strategy for dealing with those people being discussed and refined. My suggestion to anyone who they're getting to would be to take a step back and let those of us whose skin they're not getting under handle it. The favor can then be repaid later when the goading has moved on to a different topic that's sensitive for a different set of women. It's a relay!

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 08:45

Grin Iolol
The people I work with would nod along with that then report me for saying penis lol

Pratchet · 25/06/2018 08:47

It IS a relay for sure

When sarcasm is banned it has to be

whitehandledkitchenknife · 25/06/2018 08:49

Wise words AAK. One of the reasons that I don't post is that I do not have the patience. I'd have been offed way back. You are all ridiculously brilliant.
We shall overcome this.

LangCleg · 25/06/2018 08:58

There's still plenty of momentum, it's just moving into real life stuff like Man Friday, and organization will probably also happen more in other places now. I suspect MNHQ will regret losing their courage at the last moment over this issue.

I very much think they will come to regret it also. They hung on and hung on and hung on and then, just as the tide is turning, they capitulate to narc rage. But narc rage was always going to be part of the cycle. Narc rage will be at its worst when it suddenly realises it's beginning to lose ground.

I'll say again: the mods desperately need abuse/coercive control training. It's evident they don't have it.