Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

[tigersox]

Examples every man will experience. Undeniable and obvious

I'm trying to make male privilege simple to a friend who feels us feminists have gone too far.

Thanks

Bearing in mind male pattern risktaking behaviour, it's no surprise that 95% of workplace fatalities are male. Who or what is the causal agent here? Are women going around pushing men off MEWPs or are men failing to clip in to their fall arrest gear? Are women running construction companies that don't prioritise safety, or are men doing that?

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege.

The five year mean lifespan difference is again down to male pattern risktaking.

Vicky1990

Years ago, 83% of those killed in wars globally were male.

Currently, 83% of those killed in wars globally are female or under 16s.

Male privilege is...

knowing you are guaranteed an orgasm during a one night stand fuck.

I would love to know in what respects I get actual privilege over me

1. A woman can reproduce.

1. A woman is far less likely to be murdered (UK)

it's no surprise that 95% of workplace fatalities are male

It's not, because most of the riskier jobs are done by males. Another female privilege.

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege.

And if you actually gave half a shit about fixing the crap men deal out to other men instead of using it an excuse to push women back down, you'd unionise, strike for better conditions, call each other out on unsafe behaviour, mock those who try to glamourise risk-taking, condemn those who resort to violence, and support peers with mental health problems.

MorrisZapp

"You can cheat on your wife and society, including women, will blame the woman you slept with."

You can cheat on your wife and society, including women, will blame your wife for letting herself go or focussing too much on her new baby or not being adventurous enough in bed. Because it's a woman's duty to be an ever-novel plaything for a man to stop him straying.

Bad things that men do to other men do not constitute female privilege

What are the bad things that men do to each other in the work place that results in 95% more men dying than women?

A4710Rider

"most of the riskier jobs are done by males. Another female privilege."

I call BS on two counts.

1. It's men who set up the world of work and assigned different jobs to men and women.

2. If being a housewife can be described as a woman's job - which it has been for centuries - as at least one housewife per week is murdered by her husband, this is the most dangerous job in the UK.

No male job in the UK has 50+ fatalities a year.

3. A woman can reproduce.

So can men, and without having to gestate for nine months. Do you think we reproduce withour male input? We also have to navigate birth control with side effects and health risks, men don't.

4. A woman is far less likely to be murdered (UK).

BY WHO? Over 90% of violent crime is perpetrated by men. Men murdering other men is not female privilege, it's men's problem for men to fix. We are busy dealing with you killing and raping us.

At work, not wondering if an older colleague complimenting your work is really complimenting your work, or trying to get into your pants.

Not constantly policing your actions, clothes and conversation so that some senior arse at work would not "get the wrong impression".

Better medical care - men are believed by doctors more, eg get prescribed more painkillers when reporting the same amount of pain, need fewer visits to the doctor to get things properly investigated, etc. Not to mention childbirth related medical care - if men had a cut that left them with a 100 stitches on their dongs, you bet that the 6 week checkup would be a bit more thorough; and "my nipples are bleeding" would not be met with "grin and bear it".

Women, even in couples with both parents working full time, still do a bulk of childcare, housework, and organising (mental workload).

I call BS on two counts

Of course you would.

However, here are some facts

The most amount of deaths in the workplace happened in the construction industry. (HSSE)

In the UK there are 2.3 million people working in the construction industry. 296,000 of those were women.

www.constructionnews.co.uk/data/industry-barometer/women-in-construction-what-do-the-numbers-say/10017870.article

The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.

So can men

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What are the bad things that men do to each other in the work place that results in 95% more men dying than women?

example:
"The boss of a firm contracted by a Tyneside maritime construction company to dismantle a shipyard building has been jailed for the manslaughter by gross negligence of one of his workers."
"NEMOC, which supplied the crane and crane driver, and its [male] director, Christopher William Taylor, failed to ensure the safety of its employees and sub-contracted workers"

Thanks for the example.

The main cause of deaths in the workplace in 2017 was caused by being hit by moving vehicles, the second cause was falling from height. To blame that on "bad things men do to each other" is quite frankly ridiculous.

Oh look, someone shouting what the the menz!

victimfocus.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/stop-asking-me-what-about-men/

It might have already been said and I've missed it.

I rang a couple of window companies to get quotes for a new front door. Chose one to come round on a Saturday afternoon to discuss. My husband had unexpectedly been called in to work as occasionally happens, I said fine I'll deal with it and he said not a problem I trust your judgement.

Man from company rings to check we're home and will be there at arranged time. I said I was but husband now wasn't going to be. Told me he couldn't come without him there and we had to rearrange. Dressed it up as I need you both there in case there's any disagreement

So they were to,d where to stick their doors because I didn't need a man to have to agree to my choice of door or how it was being paid for, AND it was me paying for the damn thing anyway!

Oh look, someone shouting what the the menz!

As we struggle down the road towards equality men should be aware that they have certain privileges because they are men. As do women. Talking about it shouldn't be a bad thing.

Haha yeh same with a window company for a window I was paying for . in my house . " do you want to check that's ok with your husband love "

Yeh one sec il just call my non existent husband

So go start your thread full of examples of women's privilege. The whole point of the blog I linked is that when women's issues are being discussed, there is no need to start hopping up and down saying 'what about men'.

Rider coming in and giving us all a classic example of male privelidge

• dismissing what women say by talking over us and giving it " but what about men "

seriously just leave us the space to talk without feeling the need to butt in somewhere where you don't have any experience

Is he married? If so, ask him why he didn't change his name when he got married. Why Not? Didn't you want your entire family to have the same name? Why does he use Mr as a title? Is he ashamed of being married?

Ask him what message he is sending out by wearing that particular pair of trousers? Doe he not realise he's asking for trouble wearing something that emphasizes his buttocks? (you could easily use tie and neck, both are nonsensical)

“The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.”

Not wanting to?...

The fact that there are less female deaths in the construction industry is due to female privilege of not wanting to work in the construction industry.

Right. So the horrendous misogynist graffiti all over the inside of the lift hoardings when I went to do some pre-move-in comms work on a building site three years ago would have nothing to do with it? The builders wolf-whistling when I was thirteen in school uniform wouldn't put me off construction?

Women not working in construction isn't "female privilege" or a choice, it's a survival tactic because the industry is even more toxic than IT.

That construction is so dangerous is because working at heights isn't made safe enough. Most construction site deaths are caused by falls from height. Always clip in...

If most deaths at work across the board are caused by vehicle strikes, we need to ask who's driving and why they are so dangerous. Bearing in mind that I happen to know that most driving jobs are done by men, and men cause 74% of UK road traffic deaths and make up 95% of convictions for death by dangerous driving, it's pretty clear that the problem once again is ...drumroll... male pattern risktaking harming men.

Men, you need to sort yourselves out. Your violence and risktaking is not women's problem, nor is it within our capacity to fix.

I think he means the men were forced to work in construction.
I'm not sure whats forcing them to do that rather than forcing them to be, for example, cleaners.
Maybe he can elaborate? On Reddit or whatever forum hes from that has the concept of subthreads?