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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans rights supporters -can we please unite on the cervical cancer issue

240 replies

speakingwoman · 17/06/2018 10:43

I’m very worried about the cervical cancer issue.
If you are an advocate of trans rights but believe that cancer research should address its screening calls to “women” please do say so here.

To everyone else, if this is going to fail can we just let it fail quietly please?

There are some things just as important as conflicts of rights, people not dying of undetected cervical cancer is one of these.

If I get any support I will write to Cancer Research.

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 18/06/2018 08:41

Unless it was...in which case

LASS you bad bunny

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 18/06/2018 08:42

But yeah

I appreciate if lass was quoting somone else then the deletion was fair enough Grin

Ereshkigal · 18/06/2018 09:33

Lass was responding to someone using the same term. She used it in her response. It was a perfectly reasonable and sensible post. The substantive bit of it is still in my post. The post she was replying to has also been deleted and as she said was implying that women without cervixes would be wasting NHS resources. As she pointed out this would either be because there was a medical reason i.e. no uterus which would likely be known by the time of the first smear or a surgical reason, and in a rare case where the unknown medical reason was discovered at a routine smear that would be a good thing.

R0wantrees · 18/06/2018 12:30

@BelaLug0si
Yes, this is what I have seen over the years too. Those of us aware of how the system works do the same in supporting women to say the same to their GP!
My hunch is that the breakdown is actually that gyny oncology don't instruct GP practices. GP's will follow their lead when a woman has being diagnosed and will wait for instructions from them.
In order to improve things, this would need to be added to protocol.
Its also not unusual for women who have had surgery to know exactly what has been removed (some women don't want to know of course). I asked for a list and have a very good relationship with my team so was better able to then advise my GP practice.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 18/06/2018 16:51

Ah! I dont imagine lass using charlie is silly so that word didnt occur to me.

So many rules so much uncertainty & waiting for an unseen person to inform on you. Yep not sinister AT ALL.

Pratchet · 18/06/2018 16:55

I reported cis and will continue to do so

Kettlepotblackagain · 18/06/2018 17:01

I also reported cis. On the first comment it was mentioned. Not on any subsequent responses...I will also be continuing to do so

Pratchet · 18/06/2018 17:57

Same. I won't let it slip back in while we are dancing on pinheads.

LassWiADelicateAir · 18/06/2018 18:14

MNHQ have reinstated my post. The context was important as it was refuting a very silly post suggesting that the NHS would have to deal with time wasting natal women who didn't need to have a smear.

R0wantrees · 18/06/2018 18:20

Ah Lass , I remember tapping too quickly and adding to some cross-post-chaos! I'm glad it was reinstated, as you say, context is very important.

Pratchet · 18/06/2018 18:22

Please don't use the word again Lass. After the quote you used that word as if it was an acceptable and mutually understood word. It isn't, so please don't use it again.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 18/06/2018 18:50

MNHQ have reinstated my post. The context was important

Good

Thats what i was really finding annoying...the context bit

LassWiADelicateAir · 18/06/2018 19:08

Repeating the banned word was intended to be sarcastic.

Burpees' post was at best nonsense and at worst malicious (the scenario of hordes of women who don't need a smear turning up for one so that justified using language referring to people with cervices)

The fact she picked that word, for me , anyway heightened the ridiculousness of what was already a nonsense post.

MNHQ deleted her post because of that word. Personally I think it was wrong to delete it for that reason. The offensive part wasn't that word. Deleting her post then makes the several replies to it meaningless. I think it would better for such a feeble point to have stood and to let the posts refuting it do their job.

Pratchet · 18/06/2018 19:21

It didn't look that way and if you don't mark it up, it normalises the word.

Pratchet · 18/06/2018 19:23

Plenty of deletions do that. Perhaps protest about all the deletions of GC banned words that do exactly the same.

That word should not be normalised.

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