Poor kid

[Pratchet]

someone should answer for this

Ha! Ruby. That was me.

doctorcuntybollocks

Respect!

Yes, now I agree with that doctorcuntybollocks. Even those who have adhered to the gender identity ideology and the way along only have to say "oh, now actually..." to be denounced as heretics.

Fame at last.

Stop reading the mail and other such works of fantasy and check the real facts out.

I'm a dual citizen of America and Canada. I read things like Title IX and the BC courts. I read the judgement of Van Rape Relief V Nixon where an autogynephilic biological male wanted to be a rape crisis counselor in a woman-only shelter. Women won that case btw.

I read the current appeal by Gloucester County in Virginia where a biological female Gavin Grimm is being told that Title IX protects by SEX, not some empty and meaningless concept 'gender identity' and 'gender presentation.'

I'm a psych grad whose done research, so I know how to read research papers.

I don't get my information from newspapers.

Read a Grade 6 biology textbook.

I hated being a girl. When I was little, I wanted to be a boy (like many little girls, I believe). I was a tomboy, hated girlie things, hated things being done to my hair, hated anything related to makeup and glitter and loathed pink. I would have much preferred to be a boy.

I'm a happy heterosexual cis-woman now.

Doing "gender interventions" because a little girl (or even a teenager) is unhappy with their gender is obscene, immoral, and damaging. It may be that this child grows up and decides that they prefer to be a man. But let them wait and see and think and reflect.

Gender and sexuality are difficult things for anyone - you can't fix them in stone medically at such an immature age.

I also do research and know how to read research papers, but I think personal experience of going to a gender clinic with a child is far better,

This stood out for me
" Gabriel texted me from his dad's house. He said 'do you know what LGBT is?' And I didn't know what it was. He said 'well I'm one of them,' and I asked him if he meant he was trans and he said he was "

The mother jumped straight to suggesting trans and ignored completely the possibility the child could be gay. Talk about leading.

It's a newspaper article. In The Daily Mail. Have a little think about that.

Yes, it is entirely right to listen to what your young child wants and do it, no matter how physically damaging or costly it is to them. As long as the child is 'happy' we have no responsibility as parents to guide them through a difficult world with the benefit of our experience of being unhappy with our bodies or the gender roles we felt forced into. A parent's role is simply to acquiesce to every request with no thought about the consequences.

Exactly, Floral

Parents are not friends

I thought kids in U.K. Couldn't be given blockers under 16? See Dr Webberley getting in trouble for prescribing them privately..?

Evening everyone. We think some confusion may have arisen over why we've deleted posts on this thread.

Just to be clear, we have deleted any reported posts which contain reference to the parent in this news story being guilty of child abuse or Munchausen by proxy.

We're all for open discussion on this topic but accusations of abuse are a step too far and not in the spirit of Mumsnet. We hope that clears things up.

I was deleted!

Wracking my brain to think what I said but pretty sure it was along the lines that it's child abuse to trans kids (others have said it and not been deleted) and that every single story I have ever read about trans kids has relied on stereotypes, which indeed is true.

No email from MNHQ either.

Ah, just seen MNHQ post. Well fair enough in that the parent could sue.

Let me put it another way: to put your child on a path to lifelong medication, surgery and sterility is probably not in their best interest.

I was that child too, thank goodness I was a girl in the 70s/80s and not now

I sincerely wise as much money time.effirt and energy was put into quashing the stereotypes, providing equal opportunities and dealing witg the behaviour if people towards others as it is into transing the kids affected by them

Beyond me why anyone would expose their child to the public spotlight in this way.

Disgraceful
12 years old!

My child wants to eat chocolate all day should I allow that because it's "what the child wants"?

This is a parenting website! We’re not allowed to discuss what constitutes abuse?

There are people on this board that think fruit shoots/bottle feeding/sausage rolls/ear piercing/playing out on own is abuse. I don’t see their comments getting deleted

I sincerely wise as much money time.effirt and energy was put into quashing the stereotypes, providing equal opportunities and dealing witg the behaviour if people towards others as it is into transing the kids affected by them

Quite!

Lawyers innit

Are we allowed any questioning of parents whose response to a non-gender-conforming child is to medicate them? Rather then just, you know, just allow them to be children, and to grow up as they are - rejecting damaging stereotypes?

Why this big push to foist "gender identity" on to children, who would not really have a clue, otherwise?

I find it abhorrent.

Fucking hell, I would have been a prime candidate, at age 12, for irreversible medication. Climbing trees, wearing jeans, roaming my local area on a bicycle, hating and rejecting pink frills....

And are we allowed at all, to question a society which is being primed to accept the lifelong irreversible medicalisation and sterilisation of children, for the sake of an ideology dreamed up by men?

This is all sick. Let healthy children be healthy children. And fuck gender stereotypes.

I would say that directly accusing a specified individual of child abuse is always going to be dodgy. Criticising a practice would be more like, maybe fair comment?

I was that child too.

I was also that child.