log of inequalities in language used when adapted to become trans-inclusive

[speakingwoman]

Hopefully this is an issue we will all agree on.

I've noticed a few threads pointing out matters such as:

1. The Green party calling men "men" and woman "nonmen"
2. Cancer research referring to women as "people with a cervix" but to men as "men"
3. toilets for "men" and "nonmen"

If anyone is interested, I thought it would be useful to log evidence of examples of this when they are detected. In that way it should become possible to see if there is sexism behind the language.

This is a great idea. It will work to record and thereby demonstrate the sexism, rather than transphobia, that is at the core of the objection to this sort of thing . How best to do it? One compiler or shared access spreadsheet or something else??

However is convenient. The key thing is to link to the source. I will try to link to the cancer research source.

Here is how cancern research describe prostrate cancer.

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/prostate-cancer?utm_source=affiliate_window&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_name=online_retail&utm_content=www.skimlinks.com&dclid=COmomu2D1tsCFaIw0wodVBUA2g

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cervical-cancer?utm_source=affiliate_window&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_name=online_retail&utm_content=www.skimlinks.com&dclid=CMSyjK-E1tsCFSck0wodD4cKaA

Here is how cancer research descibes cervical cancer.

twitter.com/CR_UK/status/1006857678767951872

This is the cancer research tweet.

complaint that language used during the Irish referendum was 'cissexist' and ongoing lobbying around use of the word 'woman' in policies and laws giving abortion rights:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3260503-Trans-Voices-For-Appeal-Complain-About-Together-For-Yes-Campaign

Here is the tweet from the "Young Greens Women" group.

twitter.com/ygwomen/status/713708838919282688

current case in UK contesting the use of the word 'mother'

my understanding is that they are seeking father or parent.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3271504-Transgender-man-gives-birth-and-wants-to-be-recorded-as-babys-father

Just to say that I have checked the Green party's trans policy and it is scrupulously even-handed between trans men and trans women.

Is anyone able to connect me to the thread where someone was in a building with toilets labelled "men" and "non-men".

speakingwoman
Do you mean the NUS Trans 18 conference when they attempted to re-label the women's loos in a hotel and when challenged decided to occupy?

thread is here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3237230-NUS-Conference-breaks-down-after-the-UK-Border-Force-Arrive

There's also this thread re toilets:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2646358-Transgender-Toilets

that's the one:

twitter.com/transsteering/status/990988766172020739?lang=en

quote from the NUS twitter account:

"This has been fixed and signs are where they're supposed to be. There is a disabled toilet with a gender neutral sign, gender neutral toilets (formerly women's toilets), another disabled toilet and men's. If anything further occurs please let staff or steering know ASAP."
9:18 AM - 30 Apr 2018

to be fair, the NUS committee were told they could not make all toilets gender neutral because of restrictions by the venue.

Isn't this at the heart of the ideology?