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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am S p a r t a c u s

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 13/06/2018 18:53

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am Spartacus.

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AngryAttackKittens · 13/06/2018 23:05

Spartacus wore a skirt and was quite emotionally sensitive, isn't that meant to mean you can't be a dude now?

birdsdestiny · 13/06/2018 23:08

I am Spartacus.
MN is a feminist forum. Not because of FWR, but because feminism is in the bones of the site. It is women talking to women about their lives. Feminism runs through every thread about marriage, divorce, domestic violence, periods, childbirth, workplace issues. You can't move for the feminism on MN. It is it's lifeblood.
We will keep on keeping on.

ToeToToe · 13/06/2018 23:08

The one thing I just don't get about this whole debate is how gc women are being seen as mean because we refuse to swallow the Kool Aid, and call a man a woman. We're not allowed to "misgender" because that's mean.

But when it comes to women's actual safety and privacy - like on hospital wards, prisons, domestic violence refuges, rape crisis centres, police body-searching women etc - it's not considered mean to insist that male-bodied people are allowed to muscle in because of how they say they identify? This is an actual risk - we have male-bodied sex offenders in women's prisons now.

Why is it not also "mean" when a MTF takes a gold medal in women's sport - depriving a woman or girl of first place? Or takes a woman's place on the Jo Cox program, or AWS, or STEM scholarship, or any of the other precious few programs to encourage more women into male-dominated areas?

This is having more of an impact on women than hurt feelings.

PolkerrisBeach · 13/06/2018 23:15

I'm Spartacus too.

I am a woman, a human adult female. I may not have my uterus and cervix any more, no longer have periods and don't need a smear, but that doesn't change that I am a woman.

I am not transphobic. I believe in live and let live and people doing what makes them happy.

Humans cannot change sex. My lack of uterus doesn't make me male.

I don't believe in gender.

Sex and gender are not the same thing and you cannot change sex. It's written in every cell of your body.

Transwomen should be treated with respect and dignity as should everyone else. But they are transwomen. Not women.

SweetheartNeckline · 13/06/2018 23:15

I am a woman. I am terrified. I am Spartacus, and getting more Spartacus by the day.

RoseyOldCrow · 13/06/2018 23:17

Fully agree with OP's poem.
I'm Spartacus too.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/06/2018 23:17

That's part of what I find so interesting about this. Surely the people pushing so hard to shut down women's voices must be aware that when you do that you inevitably radicalize people who otherwise might never have gotten involved at all.

OlennasWimple · 13/06/2018 23:20

I was Spartacus on the original thread, I'm still Spartacus now

I can't "identify out" of the shit that has happened to me because I am a woman. No woman can. To suggest that they can is to engage in victim blaming of the most gas lighty kind

And women don't have dicks

reeldoop · 13/06/2018 23:20

Still Spartacus here.

Don't call me cis.

DNA is immutable. You can't change sex. People should be free to be themselves, not try and copy some undefinable stereotype that reinforces harmful gender constraints.

Theswaggyotter · 13/06/2018 23:25

I am Spartacus
Sex matters
Skeletons are sexed male or female and no amount of surgery / hormones or feelings will change a male to female - the pelvis, skull, femurs remain either male or female.
Brains are not pink or blue - we are have different skills and interests and our brain can mould and change according to this.
Gender stereotypes are reductive and harmful.
Gender expression is just personality - young people experimenting and trying to work out who they are.
Teenagers can not truly consent to puberty blockers as they can’t truly understand the impact of becoming infertile at such a young age. Puberty leads to acceptance of biological sex in around 80-90% of cases in children with gender dysphoria. Let’s not sacrifice the health of so many kids for something which will likely resolve by itself

I am a mother
I worry about my daughter and sons - if they are told you can change sex this can only lead to confusion. Let kids be kids. Let boys wear pink dresses and girls dress up as superheroes. We can be who we want, love who we want, dress how we want. But biology is unchangeable.

I am not transphobic but science matters

UrsulaPandress · 13/06/2018 23:26

Once a man always a man. And no one will ever, ever force me to call a man by female pronouns.

Still Spartacus.

WeeBisom · 13/06/2018 23:40

I'm Spartacus.

notafeeling · 13/06/2018 23:41

I am Spartacus.

I do not believe that a person can change sex.

I believe that expecting the world to conform to a bastardised, stereotypical performance of femininity and accept trans women into female sex-segregated spaces is a form of terrifying narcissism and gas lighting.

I believe that men have penises and women have vaginas. Women should be able to define the articles of their oppression and name their oppressors.

I do though, support the right of anyone to live life how they see fit within (legal) reason. To that end, I will call a transwoman "She" to be polite and accepting.

EmpressOfSpartacus · 13/06/2018 23:42

I'm a lesbian feminist woman. An adult human female sexually attracted to other adult human females.

For the rest of this week, I will be dealing with the blood & cramps that come from my uterus shedding its lining.

No male can experience this.

All women are born with XX chromosomes. All women are born with clitorises.

I am Spartacus and I reject gender.

barnacharmer · 13/06/2018 23:45

I am still Spartacus. I am an adult female. I am a woman. I live with the consequences of my sex every day. I can no more options out of that than a man can opt in. A man can never become a woman. Nobody can change their sex

PurpleCrowbar · 13/06/2018 23:55

I am actually encouraged today.

Because just bloody listen to us.

Look at all the strong, brilliant women calling this shit what it is, & patiently, politely refuting arrant nonsense.

We've got this, & we can't be silenced, & ee are getting the truth into the mainstream.

Still Spartacus, & so's my daughter.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 13/06/2018 23:56

I 'spartacussed' earlier on this thread but I wondered, and have been wondering since the MN guidelines were posted earlier today, why is the term TIM deemed to be offensive?

TERF is absolutely offensive, I don't, most of us on here, are not trans -exclusionary. Not all women who have concerns about self-ID would refer to themselves as 'radical feminists'. So TERF is wrong and factually incorrect in a number of ways.

Trans identified male is factually correct. It is someone previously 'assigned' or thought to be male who subsequently identifies as 'female'. How is this term deemed offensive?

Have I missed something?!

TheLastMermaid · 13/06/2018 23:57

I am an adult human female.

This terrifies me too but I too am Spartacus.

I stand with you amazing women.

Bespin · 14/06/2018 00:05

Tim was designed as a responce to terf on twitter and is offensive as the acronym is Tim a male name and was said on quite a few occasions with that intent. I am more than happy not to use terf if people find it offensive I tend not to again the acronym was invented on twitter by a radical feminist to cut down on word count.

Pratchet · 14/06/2018 00:07

I do remember one poor transactivist getting frustrated on twitter and asking 'WHO's TIM' only to get the response 'you are'.

AngryAttackKittens · 14/06/2018 00:10

I knew a Tim as in a person whose parents named him Timothy at birth once. Bit of a bastard honestly.

BlackeyedSusan · 14/06/2018 00:13

men can not change their dna to become women. they can take on their perception of being a women but can never be one due to dna. same in reverse. I can ner knwo what it is like to be a man, and all the advantages, or disadvantages of that I could learn about them, and try to understand, but iut would still not make me a man.

JimWilsonBell · 14/06/2018 00:17

I am a woman!

I was born a girl.
I grew into a woman.

I refused to classify my "gender" on MN because I'm a woman my sex is female.

I was abused by my natural father because I was a girl.

I became a mother and birthed a girl and a boy.

I bleed because I'm a woman.

I was denied an education by my ex-husband because I was a woman.

I'm not transphobic.

But while I have breath in my body I will insist on female only spaces, services and provisions.

I am Spartacus.

thebewilderness · 14/06/2018 00:23

I 'spartacussed' earlier on this thread but I wondered, and have been wondering since the MN guidelines were posted earlier today, why is the term TIM deemed to be offensive?

Transgender advocates told MNHQ that women speaking the truth is hurtful to males so it is MN responsibility to make the women stop.
The notice says they all discussed it at length and banning women who violate the talk guidelines three times in six weeks is their solution. MN members are still expected to do the reporting part of the mods job, of course. What could possibly go wrong?

Waddlelikeapenguin · 14/06/2018 00:41

Is this the 7th time?

I'm Spartacus.

Humans cant change sex not ever because science.

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