I am a science teacher teaching secondary sex education and genetics

[Clairetree1]

Ever single time. Every single time. Every single time.

I am being asked how men turn into women.

I say they can't. They turn into transwomen. These are men who change their bodies to be as much like women as possible, but are still men.

Every single time I teach pregnancy I am asked how men can do it.

Every single time we go through genetics I get a shocked response for saying "this is male, this is female"

Every single time I make any distinction between male and female I am asked "are you allowed to say that?

I equate being ordered to teach that men can become woman to previous generations of teachers being ordered to teach nazi race science.

I am quite sure I will be sacked one day

Daim: I think you're getting 'sex is binary' mixed up with 'gender is binary' or 'appearance is binary'.

Pratchet should the person in the picture use the male or female toilets?

I see a gender-non-conforming female with a drug dependency.

She can use the men's if she wants. Why wouldn't she? If men complain about it then she should use the women's, but that's up to them.

This is why it should be legal to ask for proof of sex. Sorry but you made this situation so you have to deal with the consequences.

Why wouldn't that person in the picture use the female toilets? Really? How can they be distinguished from a predatory male abusing self ID?

Daims
I have to say that I am a little uncomfortable that you have chosen to post a 'naked from the waste up' photograph of someone and invited people to speculate about them....
Not because I'm prudish by the way.
Although I would feel uncomfortable if in a corner of t'interweb a photograph of me was being used.

anyway, for clarification:

Are you asking

1. Is this person female? (we would have to assume that you have chosen to use them as an example knowing they are a trans man

)

1. Does this person look female?

As I say, transactivists made the bed and have to lie in it.

Why wouldn't she use the men's? Are men complaining?

I care about women's spaces. If men do t line it they can start their own campaign.

Don't like it

Ooh Gib is back
How do humans change sex?

Is the person in the picture still 100% female? Absolutely no grey area?

If they were born female and had surgery and hormones? Yes. They are female. Why wouldnt they be female? A female who has had a mastectomy and hysterectomy is female - it’s rather unpleasant to say otherwise.

What grey area can there be about SEX?

Not gender, not appearance... sex.

Daim, this is all getting a bit father Ted, the bit where Father explains to Dougal about near and far.

Daim, that's a picture of a woman who has had extensive hormone treatment and plastic surgery.

However, ON THE INSIDE, the socialisation, the genetics the person you outed on the internet, did you gave their permission? Is female.

Inside/outside
Sex/gender

Pratchet should the person in the picture use the male or female toilets?

Stop trying to deflect from the point of the thread!

This is the point of the thread: should science teachers give accurate lessons when teaching human reproduction? Or should they go about saying No, we don't know how babies are made or that humans reproduce via sexual dimorphism. Here, have a picture of Buck Angel to prove it?

What's next for deflection, Daim? The stork? Gooseberry bushes?

This person in the picture is an out and proud trans model Aydian Dowling

aydiandowling.com

Is the person in the picture still 100% female? Absolutely no grey area?

There are different ways of categorising people. When you categorise by sex, you refer to people born in to either the class of that produces sperm or the class that produces eggs. It is as simple as that.

Whether people have developed typically or not, whether they have undergone cosmetic surgery or whether bodily changes occur as a result of drugs, they remain of the class that produces eggs or the class that produces sperm.

I really don't understand the obsession with trying to challenge this. This is 1 classification system. Focus on another that addresses the issues that matter to you Daim. Sex isn't all that important to some people, many people this gender matters more. Others think sex matters more.

think gender matters more

What's next for deflection, Daim? The stork? Gooseberry bushes?

In before she posts that "science teacher" clownfish bollocks Facebook post.

That's the director of a gender studies department at one of the UK's top universities saying that sex is not binary.

I'm just reading the thread and to add to Glibberty's reference, thought this would be helpful.

Seriously that person is female. Her body is reacting in a female way to cross sex hormones.

This has been a very interesting and informative thread.

I do hope that nothing will happen to mean that it gets zapped in its entirety.

A female who has had a mastectomy and hysterectomy is female - it’s rather unpleasant to say otherwise.

I see no problem with referring to male anatomy and female anatomy but if you start defining a woman simply by her sex organs it can start to get very unpleasant.

We're in the uncontrolled flailing stage now, aren't we?

if you start defining a woman simply by her sex organs it can start to get very unpleasant

You can only define females by their sex organs, everything else is up to each female to define for themselves, otherwise things start getting very stereotypical and harmful

Female is written into every cell in the body. A woman who has had a hysterectomy is a woman. A woman’s body does not even respond to testosterone in the same way as a man’s does.

We're in the uncontrolled flailing stage now, aren't we?

Would appear so