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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Ireland has had self-ID for several years with no problems"

105 replies

Macareaux · 06/06/2018 13:24

Is this true? (The no problems bit)

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pachyderm · 07/06/2018 14:19

Yes, there's much crowing on social media about how the woke kids chased the UK terfs away from Ireland, and pride in the fact that no-one here holds those views anyway. Eh no, you just prevented a discussion from being had, you repressive muppets, you can't actually stop people from thinking for themselves. As the Catholic church found out eventually, not that any of you remember them well enough to see the resemblanceAngry

thebewilderness · 07/06/2018 20:00

Women will speak out. They will be demonized and dismissed when they do. They will be terrorized into silence or they will escape. Eventually enough will have spoken out despite the abuse that it will become a movement.
History teaches us if we are willing to learn.

BatShite · 08/06/2018 00:05

Ireland has not had self ID for several years. And they also seem to have kept single sex spaces. So its not quite the same as whats being proposed in the UK.

Media have to report crimes by transwomen (or people who claim to be transwomen) as female, so there would be nothing to report really about a woman being in a changing room with other women and stripping off.

Anecdotes and personal experience will be written off as not proof.

So I think you will struggle to find any actual proof. I highly suspect the first glimpse will be when female sexual crime shoots up. Like in the UK we have female rapists all of a sudden when a female convicted for rape is generally very very very rare. From memory I think its 6 'women' done for rape in the past year? That sounds small, but its not and it will definitely affect statstics given how rare femal sex offenders actually are.

I find it sad when people say that because there is no proof of actual assault happening because of this, everything is fine. Especially when sexual assault is so underreported in the first place as women tend not to be believed or to be blamed. Taking asault ut of the equation totally..if a woman goes to the gym for example and a bloke is getting changed next to her, she won't report it but will not go back to said gym. So women will just quitely withdraw, maybe speak to friends about it but when these stories become more common, they will be written off as 'propoganda' or 'scaremongering'

Pratchet · 08/06/2018 07:33

Yes batshite. They never mention sex specific spaces when they all talk about Ireland, because they know they are coming for our sex specific spaces in the rest of the UK.

They'll all say they're in favour of Equaluty Act exemptions but are lying.

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 08/06/2018 09:03

Whoever posted about transgender people in Ireland being 'spoken to' above and made out like we were all living in a cluster of tiny little hamlets is talking shite quite frankly. The transgender population is tiny, really really small and we don't have media prominent TRAs in the same way as the UK does. The most 'noise' around the issue is found in the colleges and universities, so perhaps this will change in the coming years but the average person wouldn't have much awareness of the issues.

There have been no issues, as far as I'm aware, of someone abusing self ID laws but, again, there's very little knowledge about them. As a PP has already said, sex based exemptions exist under the law for prisons etc.

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