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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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276 replies

J4nice · 05/06/2018 13:41

Feminists have already proved that they want to be called men by showing up at a pool and in their own words (identifying as male)

Woman claim that other woman are men when they are not and call them offensive things

Men and anyone else should have the right to refer to you on MN as men without having such posts removes or without facing discipline

I will refer to you as male from now on, if this isn't allowed then it's discrimination and I will file a case of discrimination to MN

OP posts:
spontaneousgiventime · 06/06/2018 19:06

Outta space more like = alien Grin

PosyFossilsShoes · 06/06/2018 20:35

Ah, excellent, I'll have my 17% pay rise in the morning and I don't think I'll bother with the housework.

(seriously it doesn't bother me in the least when I get called 'sir' or get letters addressed to Mr [Neutral Forename] Surname. In fact I got misgendered in the response I got from my MP when I wrote about the GRA. I laughed.)

thebewilderness · 06/06/2018 20:56

Janine appeared American and fairly young in tone and text. 2/10 indeed.

The similarity between an America teen girl and an American adult male on the interwebs in both style and substance is remarkable.

MipMipMip · 06/06/2018 21:32

In fact I got misgendered in the response I got from my MP when I wrote about the GRA. I laughed

Grin
ElenOfTheWays · 06/06/2018 21:46

I may be a man today, I'll have to check I was defintely a non-binary bride and I have the wedding snaps to prove it!

ElenOfTheWays · 06/06/2018 21:48

That's "Elen" sometimes pronounced "Alan"

Smile
ScienceIsTruth · 06/06/2018 21:49

What a twat! Let us know when you've finished throwing a tantrum Hmm

ScienceIsTruth · 06/06/2018 21:52

Oh, and just for the record, I really don't care what you call me; sticks and stones and all that.
Not really sure what you hope to achieve with your daft post.

DickTERFin · 06/06/2018 22:18

On a feminist board, surely you’d be better calling all the women “girls” if your objective was to start a ruckus?

There’d be whisks and tablet gloop a flying as we all fell over ourselves to point out that “girls” are juvenile human females not adult human females or some such.

Bloody amateur night in hecklers corner ain’t it?!

Kettlepotblackagain · 06/06/2018 22:23

Sorry to sidetrack, but I don't think this warrants a whole new thread - My Father in Law, who for many reasons I have many issues with, aside from the fact that he's a chauvinist - (although apparently it's acceptable because it's just 'that generation') often refers to women as 'girls'. Particularly taking about women younger than him. He refers to his daughter in laws as 'girls' Im nearly fucking 40. I'm not a girl. Am I ott to be irritated at the lack of respect this shows? I think it's because he's generally a passive aggressive twat so it's annoys me even more!

thebewilderness · 06/06/2018 22:29

My brother used to do the same and even did it to his mum.
It is quite simply one of many male dominance displays women are confronted with on a daily basis. What is called a micro aggression by those who analyze such things.

DickTERFin · 06/06/2018 22:34

^ Point deftly illustrated by Kettle.

Call us men, we’re like I’ve been called worse. Call us girls and we’ll fucking lose our shit.

Kettlepotblackagain · 06/06/2018 22:35

I feel it speaks volumes about what he thinks females should be. Just wear a nice dress, sit in the corner and shut up. Then you're a proper 'girl' and acceptable.

CourtneyLovely · 06/06/2018 22:58

I hate when I'm out with DD and a waiter etc addresses us as girls. She's not really a girl any more and I'm definitely not. I have been known to point this out to them...

Bowlofbabelfish · 07/06/2018 08:19

I often get ‘sir’ if people haven’t met me. I care not one whit.

The default assumption that Dr.Babelfish must be Male because Dr. is an eye opener.

Years back I went on a holiday with a female friend - no name ambiguity, but both of us put Dr. on the booking and ticked female on the booking too. At the airport the airline had booked us in as men and started the whole ‘but your details must match what’s on your passport’ shit.
After about an hour of polite argument, we got a sheepish apology as they realised that the system booked all people who picked Dr. as Male. How they’d managed to not notice that I don’t know...

SirVixofVixHall · 07/06/2018 10:21

Bowl Shock everyone Doctor was assumed male, that is appalling.

thebewilderness · 07/06/2018 20:30

On the political blogs I am assumed to be a man by men, because unless you have a distinctly USian female type name everyone on the political blogs are assumed to be men.
When they found out Hilzoy and Digby were women they crossed their legs and their gonads withdrew into their bodily cavity just like poor pathetic Tucker Carlson whenever he hears Hillary Clinton's voice.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 08/06/2018 14:35

Maybe we should all try correcting people who call us 'girls' and tell them that actually our pronouns are 'he' 'his' or 'zie' (or whatever the heck the other ones are, can't be arsed to find out). That might be fun Grin

Bowlofbabelfish · 08/06/2018 14:40

Yup. I asked them have you never run into this before? Do you not have oodles of female doctors booking nice weeks to Crete in the sunshine?

There were mutterings about system upgrades and errors. I honestly can’t belive anyone would set a system to do that - I think it was probably a human error somewhere. Not that that makes it better.

By the way, when we got to the hotel they assumed we were a couple and had given us a double bed Grin although the hotel were delightful and sorted that sharpish with an upgrade and cocktails ;)

I’ve had ‘oh. You’re a woman’ at work more times than I can count. Yes mate I am. And I’m not making the fucking coffee either.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 08/06/2018 14:41

There is a part of me that quite likes the idea of having a tantrum because my pronouns aren't being respected (particularly now that I've been informed I am, in fact, a man). I have to deal with tantrums these days from a real toddler so the idea of letting rip myself and not always having to behave like a mature and responsible adult is quite appealing.

Of course, given that I am a parent to one small child and one larger but still quite demanding child, and have a billion things I should be doing all the time, I do realise that what someone calls you really isn't a big deal and I really don't care.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/06/2018 14:49

Well, occasionally the assumption that Dr is male can be downright hilarious like the time my prescription for BCPs was labelled 'Mr' ...

StealthNinjaMum · 08/06/2018 14:59

Only on page 4 of this thread, I am enjoying it. I bet it'll be zapped while I pick up the kids from school.

Just remembered I am identifying as a man today so op if you want to misgender me you'll have to call me a laydee.

MyRelationshipIsWeird · 08/06/2018 15:14

Happy ManFriday to you Ninja.

I’ve spent my ManFriday not doing the washing up, not putting a load of washing on, not having a shower and eating leftover pizza for lunch.

I hope J20nice is still able to read all our helpful contributions to their thread even after their literal erasure (love your video Transplants!!)

FemmeButch · 08/06/2018 15:23

If you call me anything other than genderfluid: intergender and neutrois, ill roast your legs on a spit

smithsinarazz · 08/06/2018 15:41

Oh, how funny, I had a meeting with a woman called Jan a few weeks ago. When she turned out to be a Dutchman also called Jan I said "Oh, haha, I thought you were a woman." She didn't punch me or tell me to die in a fire, though. Was I just lucky?