ManFriday article in the Daily Mail

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Good coverage of ManFriday at the Hampstead ponds - including supportive comments from Debbie Hayton, and not so supportive (stop being silly wimmin) comments from Jane Fae
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796701/Hampstead-ponds-row-continues-transgender-demands-going-far.html

@MNHQ Is there a way for the tech team to prevent the creeper above from mirroring your threads on another site?

Also , apparently the onslaught of people trying to shut the site down continues.

“When your allies are the DM, the Catholic Church and David Davies MP - you have to seriously consider if your views are correct.”

You remind me of another fight we fought where Feminists were accused of being in bad company by the lefty liberals.
Feminist testified against the proliferation of pornography and so did the Churches. We lost that fight and you now live in a porn culture because we lost that fight.
You won't like the culture you live in if we lose this one too.

What happened with the visitors?

The first ones told us that we were being monitored by their team and did anyone want to comment.

Wankers.

HQ on the case! That bloke needs an intervention.

Isn't it telling that the TRAs aren't actually hounding the Daily Mail, the Catholic church and David Davies though? Given how utterly heinous and beyond the pale that we are told that they are?

But no, it is just ordinary women that they go after.

Every single time.

“When your allies are the DM, the Catholic Church and David Davies MP - you have to seriously consider if your views are correct.”

Not necessarily, for two reasons: (1) there may be times when parties with differing views agree on a particular issue and (2) one can arrive at the same destination using different routes.

I find the use of the term "allies" in this case to be particularly revealing as it is typical TRA-speak.

TRA mantra:

Allies are horribly transphobic but we won't bully and intimidate them. The allies are male-centred and therefore get a pass from us.

I'd actually have a bit more respect for them if they did take on an organisation like the Catholic Church. It would demonstrate that TRAs do believe what they are saying.

At the moment, they are proving their own agenda by only bullying and intimidating women. The discomfort, upset and silencing of women is the end-goal for them, nothing else matters.

“When your allies are the DM, the Catholic Church and David Davies MP - you have to seriously consider if your views are correct.”

Not necessarily, for two reasons: (1) there may be times when parties with differing views agree on a particular issue and (2) one can arrive at the same destination using different routes.

I find the use of the term "allies" in this case to be particularly revealing as it is typical TRA-speak.

Yes, this.

And also, to turn it on its head, if people from such radically different worldviews are all vehemently disagreeing with TRAs and their 'allies', then that indicates even more clearly that there's something radically wrong wtih the TRA views.

It's like gravity - I may vehemently disagree with religious people about what happens to people after we die, but we all agree that if someone jumps off a tall building without a parachute, bungee cord, etc, then they're going to go splat on the pavement and be dead. Similarly, we may disagree about what the appropriate social rules should be for men and women, but we all agree that men are the ones with the dangly bits and women are the ones who can potentially get pregnant.

This really isn't as complicated as TRAs would like to pretend that it is.

And also, to turn it on its head, if people from such radically different worldviews are all vehemently disagreeing with TRAs and their 'allies', then that indicates even more clearly that there's something radically wrong wtih the TRA views.

Very much agree with this.
I couldn't give a toss what paper something is printed in, or what political party someonr votes for - I am anti Self-ID & against the transing of kids (social & medical).

If an issue can cross over so many differences (class/age/sexuality/wealth/politics etc) then it's clearly a massive bloody red flag that the issue is a problem.

I find the use of the term "allies" in this case to be particularly revealing as it is typical TRA-speak.

recent thread discusses both the language and context of 'allies':
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3228481-Cis-allies-being-asked-to-provide-protection

I know We Need To Talk and find a middle way but that’s just not on offer is it? Any offers to talk aren’t about finding compromise, they’re about beating us into submission. And when we say no we’re threatened (have had threats of police action and civil action today) and shut down (am shadowbanned).

Post by SwearyG

Twitter comment today that other #ManFriday women have been shadow banned:
twitter.com/hear_woman/status/1003043635712155649