Feminism contradicts an equalist society: discuss

[Equalist1]

I’ve been watching a lot of threads lately and I have come to the conclusion that; feminism in its earliest form was a beacon of light in an unjust era. Fighting against clear inequality between genders. My question is, as the gaps reduce into non existence should we begin to describe ourselves as equalist as opposed to feminists.

I think this is a really important point to discuss as evidence suggest that the youths of the day I.e 0-30 years olds there are virtually zero inequalities between men and women, and, the variables that are unequal are because one side chooses to be different.

Thoughts?

as the gaps reduce into non existence

WHEN the gaps reduce into non existence we can have this discussion.

Right now, those gaps are big.

And feminism isn’t starting and stopping at equal ops.

What do you mean by “extreme feminists”?

I told DH I was a radical feminist. He looked a little worried atcthe word radical. He asked for a definition. I explained and gave him a few things to read.

His reply was ‘but none of that is radical, it’s just common sense.’

What is an ‘extreme feminist’? Is it like extreme ironing? feministing while BASE jumping perhaps?

You’ve clearly never been.

What to a prostitute? Yes OP because I'm not a rapist. Bog off back to twitter mate. You sound ridiculous. Did you think you'd come on here and we'd all go - wait a minute - he's right! We've all read books as well OP - more than you obviously. You need to do more than just watch Jordan Peterson vidoe's on YouTube if you want to debate here mate. Jog on.

It’s because it doesn’t happen enough to be a social problem.

And there we have proof of why we need feminism - for females to decide what issues are problematic in society for women.

Assassinatedbeauty. I’m not trying to address the disparity in violence between men and women. It exists. It’s just an insignificant amount when applied the whole population

98% of violent crime is committed by men.

I don’t think you’re going to do very well in your maths GCSE....

"Right and wrong is important but the wrong has to happen a lot to be mainstream"

So you're saying that all violent crimes and sexual assaults are not a mainstream issue? You genuinely feel it isn't important to be addressed? How does that square with being an "equalist"?

I don't believe that care is just about negotiations between couples. It is a conflict throughout society as autonomous roles expected within work do not consider contextuality and relationships which care requires. Show me workplaces which value employees who both need to receive and give care equally alongside individuals who can prioritise work above everything else and then I may agree we have progressed.

Extreme feminism? It’s interesting one of my Female students summarised it as, the belief in feminism to the point were they are ignorant of were progress has been made, were they are equal and were they are better off. They continue to fight the fight for the sake of fighting. She finalised with these people are essentially irrelevant they represent a small “radical” portion of a movement and fixate on issues that represent the minority I.e sexual, domestic assaults. Although they are serious in incident they are insignificant in occurance. Fixation causes stagnation.

I was obviously paraphrasing. She also earned a level 1. (A in old money) if you find this shocking you can probably indenting yourself as a radical feminist. Does that help?

I don’t think you’re going to do very well in your maths GCSE....

2 + 2 = 5

Because equalism is also about being realistic. You can’t fix everything but you can fix most things. Which feminism has achieved. Equalism is the natural progression of feminism whether you agree that it should happen now (based on the comments not likely), but it will happen eventually most likely as the next fresh faced generation comes through.

Tell me about these multiple societies where sex work is considered prestigious.

Hint: I don't count societies where poverty is so extreme that girls are sold into prostitution in a city so that the rest of the family can eat back in their village.

I wouldn't normally quote whatsisname who wrote the West Wing on a thread about feminism but as Amy said to Josh 'I have never, and neither have you, met a little girl who said "I want to be a prostitute when I grow up"'

What's the priority of your "equalism" then, @Equalist1?

Violence in society is a trivial non issue to you. I'd like to hear what your number one top issue is.

Bettereatcheese. I would love to but I think we both know this will never happen. You have to choose between family and work. It doesn’t matter whether you are a man or a women. There are not enough hours in the day to do both. If you prioritise work you neglect your family. If you prioritise family you won’t progress as quickly at work because you won’t be there as often.

It’s a choice and complaining that it’s a choice is silly. You have to decide which you would rather do. And for those that say you can do both, your dreaming or rich.

Lol... this is HILARIOUS....

You’re one of the more amusing MRA plopped OP well done!

You’ve managed to make many idiotic points without me having to stamp my bingo card at all!

She also earned a level 1. (A in old money)

Does anyone know of a qualification for which an A would now be a level 1? I'm just trying to work out what age the OP is claiming to be teaching. Frankly I doubt any professional educator would repeatedly say 'were' instead of 'where'.

GCSE?

*ploppers not ‘plopped’

I'm guessing he means a 7, rather than a 1, for GCSE. Goodness knows what subject. Rather concerning that he doesn't know which way the numbering goes.

GCSE might now, they are desperate for teachers nowadays you know! My son’s music teacher is trying to teach him history and RE as well!

Assasinatedbeauty. Im not a politician. I don’t have a number one priority and have never given much thought to what I would prioritise. But it would be based in occurance rates and statistics. This denotes that violence between genders would be lower down than gun and knife crime in London.

You're not actually reading the responses properly.

I specifically discussed reducing the rate of male offending down to that of women. Which would resolve nearly all gun and knife crime.

Interesting that you're convinced that the goals of feminism are out of date, but you haven't yet identified any goals for your shiny new "equalism".

Assasinatedbeauty. Thanks I do mean 7 sorry. Also I am a she not a he.

The confounder here is that men are physically superior to women

Being stronger in a fight does not necessarily show physical superiority.

Men are completely terrible at the really important physical stuff like carrying and giving birth to the future of the human race.

I’m interested that OP thinks that it’s wrong for employers to avoid hiring women of childbearing age or with children, but that that’s what she’d do if she had a business.

I don’t know if this is much of a recommendation of the equalist mindset - “I don’t approve of this but I’m going to do it anyway, and it’s close enough to equality so why are people still going on about it?”

Radical feminism is not about fighting for the sake of it. As far as I’m aware it is about questioning and fighting the sort of assuptions that mean that people are still willing to hire married men in their twenties and thirties, but not women.

Yeah, it's an easy typo to make (?!).