Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

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... at least the men's pond is

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps

Whoever called the police, and whoever in the police services deemed it necessary to attend and make the manfriday people to leave wasted the time.

But I don't think anyone has ever said the men's pond is open to TiFs have they?

I know it's absolutely breathtaking in its open hypocrisy and misogyny but I think it's true - men have three ponds to choose from at Hampstead - one of those single sex and women have two mixed sex ponds - albeit one only for female 'gendered' people.

Very happy to be corrected if they have said anything like that about the men's pond?

Aw - I missed what Nicholas said! Shame....was it nasty bigots and terfs ?? Love it when the TAs come on here like Kreacher.

Nicholas was a random spammer advertising some dodgy service for people suspicious of their partners fidelity.

Certain if the byelaws don't distinguish, then the byelaws have said that both ponds are only open to biological men/women as appropriate.

And if the staff have been trained, why would they not be trained both ways?

Oh I see Not a kreacher then - that makes a change!

I think this all nicely demonstrates that this is Men's Rights Activism. Men - can go anywhere, do anything, if they identify as a woman - women - not so much. Police are called...

Nicholas was a random spammer advertising some dodgy service for people suspicious of their partners fidelity.

Well, colour me disappointed!!

if the byelaws don't distinguish, then the byelaws have said that both ponds are only open to biological men/women as appropriate.

This is the weird thing - the byelaws do distinguish but in the other direction - no males in the ladies' pond, nothing about females in the men's pond

Just to clarify they were the Hampstead Constabulary not the Met.

Probably the most exciting thing they've had to police in a while. Bet the rest is littering, bike theft and illegal BBQs!

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/hampstead-heath/visitor-information/Pages/Constabulary.aspx

I find it amazing that women say they don't want dicks in their space and they're labeled bigots and paranoid.

But dear God, men having to see a few tits jiggled in their faces then suddenly policies need reviewing, single sex spaces need to be honoured, police have to be called.

And here I thought men liked breasts. Now they need to be protected from them.

W Yorks police would have had 'em banged up for life

Or perhaps on the ducking stool - they're bringing that back, right? For mouthy women...?

I'm not sure that the men who freqent hampstead swimming ponds would be generally the best sample if seeking out breast preferring men

And this is the point as well

The single sex ponds have quietly existed for an awful long time as a place that gay men & lesbians can hang out (not with each other [grin[). Of course the men don't want women there - and that goes for straight men who use them as well as some people do prefer single sex for a variety of reasons.

The idea that all must become single gender - not single sex - undermines this entirely, as it is so merrily undermining the very existence of homosexuality - insisting that it is by definition transphobic - that sexual orientation towards a sex rather than a gender is a bigoted position to take.

This is all aside of the utter hipocracy of the trans training being brought into effect when it's dicks in with the women, but a cunt or 2 in with the chaps and it's police time.

The fact that the byelaws only talk about keeping men out of the women's changing area reflects the reality that 1. there are a lot more pervy men than women and 2. in general men are more of a threat to women than vice versa.

This is the weird thing - the byelaws do distinguish but in the other direction - no males in the ladies' pond, nothing about females in the men's pond

Curioser and curioser.

Fantastic Man Friday! Good work. In awe of you completely

no males in the ladies' pond, nothing about females in the men's pond

I guess because males (as a class), are dangerous to females (as a class)?

Yes I understand the logic of the byelaw, I don't understand why it's being enforced completely in reverse.

I guess because males (as a class), are dangerous to females (as a class)?

Quite.

We forget - well we don't forget, but we're being brainwashed to forget - that all these rules put in place were for women's safety - and are now being ridden roughshod over by transactivists.

Really impressed by this, your names will be on a plaque one day

your names will be on a plaque one day

Love that thought! Modern day suffragettes

Good evening lovely Mumsnetters! (am a bit pissed, so will try to be coherent). What. A. Day.

First things first, well done to whoever (sorry, drunk, can't scroll back) spotted my t-shirt on Redbubble. There's 20% off with SAVESAVE20 today - I've worn it fairly regularly since October and it still looks great.

Anyhoo, ManMonday. It was all a bit secretive because we know the TRAs watch us on here and on Twitter so we didn't want to advertise it because we are all about peaceful protest. We had half a dozen women swimming, and about the same handing out leaflets and talking to the men. I think it was enough to make an impact, but not so many as to be massively intrusive. Perfect, if you will.

I emailed the Corporation of London about self ID trans inclusivity a month or so ago and received confirmation that we were welcome in the ponds we identified with, so no rules were broken.

It turns out, however, that the super-woke rules don't match up with the bylaws. The lifeguards called the rozzers on us and we were summoned to speak to them. I was out of the pond by them as I had run out of patience talking to a man who called us "petty and Edwardian" many times so I said I'd round everyone up. Seems rounding up self ID transmen swimmers is like herding cats but we got out of the pond. The super cross, manly, policemen took us to a side area and got their telling-off-book out and said we were in breach of summary offences, at which point I wibbled. Fortunately one of the other chaps said "Sweary has an email" so they asked to see it and changed their tune.

They told us, once we were changed and outside, that we had breached some bylaws but because the email was ambiguous they wouldn't take action today. No names or addresses were taken, but they will feed back to their Chief Constable. So the rules and the bylaws don't marry, fancy that.

Most of the men we spoke to - inside and outside moved from outraged that women were in their pond to agreeing with us in a matter of moments. I have a very fond memory now of a very grand old chap swearing at us in the ponds, and then when he realised we were on the same side outside having a lovely chat and a bit of a cuddle.

Anyway, all of us who do this are brave. Amy and I are the people who are at the front but there were a good dozen very brave women behind us, who are amazing.

Have more , Sweary. You deserve it. I love you and your fellow gents.

You are the total gold-plated ovaries and I salute you all!