Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

[PencilsInSpace]

... at least the men's pond is

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps

Tomorrow a few self id women should go down to swim in the ladies pond. See if they get escorted off by police.

To make this fair then they'd need a few men to self id and go in the women's pond to see if they get kicked out.

Although if that happened those policemen would probably be sent on a course to be 'educated' and made to make a grovelling apology to those poor, fragile trans women.

Thank you to our brave ManFriday protesters. I take my hat off to you, I really do.

It'll be very interesting to see what attention this gets. Fully expecting to see mimmymum & friends frothing around the place very soon...

But it is so, so telling that the men in the pond are taken seriously (police called) - what if the women in the women's only pool complain? Would the police be called for them - or would they be "re-educated" ??

ooh, xposted with ou, justwannadance - your post wasn't showing when I posted

Women who use the ladies' pond did complain back in January. Of course the police weren't called! The women were just told the transladies were allowed to be there.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/transgender-women-hampstead-heath-ladies-pond-kenwood-kate-moss-a8136581.html

Shit stinks.

Pencils - Fuck that.

Why are men taken so much more seriously than women?

(The answer to that would be "why we need feminism" in a paragraph, I guess.)

Who is that transphobe who says self ID can be abused?

Did the police actually make the self ID- ing men leave?!

If so, they shouldn’t have.

(ignoring Nicholas)

Woah! Hang on.

So according to the January article, everyone working at the pond is well-versed in trans issues and trained, so trans-identifying men who would like to swim in the female pond are OK, whenever they say they are men.

But today, for Sweary G, Amy and I think another, even though they're self-Iding as males, the sex-based laws were invoked?

It's almost as if males are more vocal, and get heard when they complain about manginas in their pool?.

PS: if you['re new to this debate and happened to click on this thread wondering what the fuss is all about: -- be it pools, toilets, schmesh, mesh, many of us here on this board are just simply saying 'female' needs to be defined - whatever your space that's important to you to be penis-free,, be it toilets, smear tests, sex-based data re. discrimination practices, your child breaking stereotypical boundaries, lesbians being told they're transphobic for not acceptng 'lady dicks, ie penises' We need more of you to see what's going on right now.

You're probably like I was - 'live and let live'. Many of these trans activists don't want 'live and let live'. They want 'in' to your spaces.

Not because they are like you.

Because they want to be validated by you. To get off on being you.

So you wasted police time to prove a point? Time they could be spent helping women or girls in need?
Dubious.

I don’t believe any of the ManFriday people were the ones who phoned the police.

Well played, you fabulous ManFriday gents! I hope this gets the media coverage you’ve earned, especially with the obvious double-standard. I’ll email the City of London Corporation tomorrow to check whether I’m still allowed to use the Ladies Pond on Wednesdays, but I rather suspect that after today, the response will be a politer version of “Just fk the fg f**y f*k off!”

I’ll email the City of London Corporation tomorrow to check whether I’m still allowed to use the Ladies Pond on Wednesdays, but I rather suspect that after today, the response will be a politer version of “Just fk the fg f*y fk off!”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

The wonderful speaking at WPUK in Basingstoke

waves to @IAmDavidLewis - nice to see you and I hope you are well.

I remember the complaints in January about Men using the women’s pond. Women’s concerns were brushed aside. As per usual.

Thank you for doing this MenFriday. You rock!!

I cannot wait for the councils response to this.

So you wasted police time to prove a point?

I expect that as the police were not called when people identiying as women were in the ladies pool, that the people identifying as men assumed that the police wouldn't be called if the people identifying as men went in the mens pool

All that 'what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander' shit and that!!

So the staff at the mens pool were definitely wasting police time...possibly you could email and tell them so

Daimbars, please can you explain to me why people with penises are allowed in the women's pool (see Independent coverage from earlier this year) but people with vaginas are not allowed in the men's pool? Go on, give it a try. Do remember to show your working (marks will be deducted for simply asserting transwomen are women without any supporting argument).

So you wasted police time?

Time they could be spent helping women or girls in need?

Is that what you think the police do with their time? Bless. Do you live in a Marvel comic?

You two are amazing!

#Manfriday is such a wonderful, gentle campaign. It's humorous but at the same time it goes straight to the heart of the issue. Nobody's harmed, it purely targets the stupid rules that are being brought in without consulting women.

And it really pisses off the TRAs - because it's working!

Go for it David, I'll be very interested in their response.

So the staff at the mens pool were definitely wasting police time...possibly you could email and tell them so

Yes, it seems they've forgotten their trans inclusiveness training - they should probably go back for re-education.

Absolutely disturbingly

But I expect daim is getting right on that as i type