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Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

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PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 16:47

... at least the men's pond is Hmm

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps Flowers

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
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ChoccyJules · 28/05/2018 17:52

What Dino said. Exactly that.

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 17:56

Sweary G - if you're around - did you know about the by-laws before you went?

pombear · 28/05/2018 18:02

Well done #ManFriday. Your action really helps to flush out the true issues here - there's a (assuming pronouns!) man commenting early on in your twitter feed saying he was there and men weren't supportive.

On his feed he retweets someone saying:
"Great. Daily Mail rocks up with some self-professed “radical” “feminists” claiming to be men at the Men’s pond to protest trans women using the women’s pond. Like what feminists work with Daily Mail?! Ffs. TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN"

a) I don't recall Amy or SwearyG self-identifying as radical feminists. Seems yet again a broad brush slur.

b) Surely, in this case, you'd be defending TRANS MEN ARE MEN. 'Cos in the mad world of identity politics, surely what Man Friday have just done has more implication for one of the very quiet, very unobtrusive transmen who want to go for a swim in the pond of the gender/sex they identify with. Why the need to shout about trans women?

Funny how all these men are all up in the trans-campaign when it's in their face...but just for males' rights. "Get out of the males pond/trans women are women".

Huh?!

InLoveWithDavidTennant · 28/05/2018 18:07

Ooh jolly well done!

If they dont say the same about the womens pond then its all a bunch of bullshit. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 18:15

According to the byelaws there would be nothing stopping them going to the men's pond as women anyway. It says:

6. No male person over the age of 14 years shall go or attempt to go into any part of any open space in contravention of any regulation of the Council specified in a notice exhibited on such part reserving such part for the use of female persons and children under the age of 14 years only.

  • but there's no equivalent byelaw banning female persons from areas reserved for male persons.
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AssassinatedBeauty · 28/05/2018 18:18

I wonder which bylaw they meant then, when they told the manfriday protestors that they had to leave the men's pond? Odd.

SarahAr · 28/05/2018 18:19

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averylongtimeasspartacus · 28/05/2018 18:19

Yes, there seems to be a man's pond for biological men ( beings with a penis in case you were wondering), a mixed pond for anyone, with or without a penis/vagina and a woman's pond, for anyone with or without a penis or vagina as long as they identify as a woman.

So it's perfectly ok for a person with a male body who identifies as a women to go swimming at the women's pond, but it is not ok for a female bodied person who identifies as a man to go for a swim at the men's pond.

Rank hypocrisy.

averylongtimeasspartacus · 28/05/2018 18:20

Oh, and very well done ManFriday lads, #boveriesofsteel.

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 18:21

but there's no equivalent byelaw banning female persons from areas reserved for male persons

This just gets better and better! This, plus all the dudebros having melt downs and being entirely unable to disguise their rampant sexism and Miranda being a self-ID man to boot - I'm having a fab afternoon!

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 18:22

Better luck next time girls!

Please don't misgender people. It's literal violence.

Popchyk · 28/05/2018 18:23

I wonder if ManFriday and WomanWednesday would ever get together to have a simultaneous swim in the opposite sex pools?

Maybe on a Thursday?

TerfsUp · 28/05/2018 18:23

Well done! That is such great news. Thank you, Amy and Hannah.

Elendon · 28/05/2018 18:24

Your clitoris is bigger and better than any penis on show.

Invalid · 28/05/2018 18:24

Bylaws 10, 44 and 45

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Gileswithachainsaw · 28/05/2018 18:25

You guys are amazing Smile

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 18:25

It's at times like this I am so proud of @MNHQ without MN #ManFriday may not have been born. Wine for everyone.

AssassinatedBeauty · 28/05/2018 18:27

Number 10 is about toilets, not the swimming areas, surely? And 44 and 45 are about other aspects of what they may have been doing, not about using the ponds themselves.

HermioneWeasley · 28/05/2018 18:28

💐

UpstartCrow · 28/05/2018 18:30

Champion menning chaps Football

Women are at a disadvantage unless the women's pool is also now single sex.

Nottheduchessofcambridge · 28/05/2018 18:31

Well done fellow chaps (said in a gruff voice while grabbing crotch)

Bowlofbabelfish · 28/05/2018 18:31

Brava! Or bravo! Whatever really, just well done!

The police look relaxed - does anyone know how they reacted? Were they supportive?

Invalid · 28/05/2018 18:31

10 is about changing rooms too.
Anyway, this is what the police said 🤷‍♀️

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 18:32

Number 10 is about toilets, not the swimming areas, surely?

TBF this is what would most put me off swimming in the men's pond Grin

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AssassinatedBeauty · 28/05/2018 18:35

Well, quite! But as long as you change beforehand and don't use the changing rooms of the opposite sex then there's no problem.