Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

[IAmDavidLewis]

Well, one of the weirdest days in my life concluded with me receiving a letter informing me of my immediate suspension from the Labour Party. They believe I may have breached the rules by subverting the intention of All Women Shortlists, Women’s Officers or minimum quotas for women. Unfortunately, this does mean that my political ambitions are on hold for a while. I shall of course be continuing to self-identify as a woman every Wednesday, as that is my gender identity...

I have to say a huge thanks to @namechangeah for all her help, guidance and, more importantly, proof-reading! I wouldn’t have gotten to this point without it. I’d also like to thank everyone for their support today. I hope this has helped a bit.

And the Telegraph called me an “activist”! Achievement unlocked

1. Got an awful lot of people talking about how ridiculous the notion of self-ID is.

Which is good - and probably why SMG is so cross.

Supermatch

Spectacularly missing the point there

At the point at which they accepted his nomination, the Labour Party knew nothing of his motivation, other than what he told them. They gave not the shiniest shit. They knew one thing: that he was male. They knew that, and yet they thought that entirely irrelevant to the job at hand and were prepared for him to supersede someone female.

Really good they've clarified their position. Now we know. Now all those people who didn't have a clue about this know that a man, for whatever reason, is eligible to take a woman's job

And I can't believe SMG claims to know Mr Lewis's gender ID better than he does - how very transphobic and bigoted.

The Labour party knows you don't have a female gender identity.

But they didn't until he publicised it - they'd accepted his application.

I thought it was more that the Labour Party has now become the sole arbiter - aka gatekeeper, and we know how TRAs hate gatekeeping - of who does, and does not, have a genuine gender identity. Which, of course, is not self-ID at all.

Really? I just read that back boaty it doesn't seem particularly cross to me. Would you prefer me to have decorated it with a few and ? 🌻 and 🌸?

Would that make it look less cross?

SMG But it is happening elsewhere not that it ever would happen. Here's one recent example www.therepublic.com/2018/05/08/lt-mexico-fake-transgender/

Men lieing to get something. Who would have thought it?!

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

That’s rather the point of it.

The Labour party knows you don't have a female gender identity.

Ahhh but they didn’t did they? Until he told them. Up until then they accept a bloke saying he’s a woman on wednesdays as if it’s the most regular and normal thing.

It’s a fantastic bit of work. With not a single raised voice, no threats, no violence, David has thrust this whole thing into the spotlight. Just like ManFriday - polite, civil protest. It’s fabulous and it’s got people talking. This is the best of British civil protest.

And no ones afraid of the issues being discussed are they? Why on earth wouldn’t they welcome debate and awareness?

Unless people wanted all this to fly under the radar?

Objectively, how can you tell if someone is a fake transwoman or a real transwoman?

In terms of AWS, a question you only need to ask in the bizarre wold of Scaremongery Transphobia.

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

Tad transphobic? If David says she’s a woman on wednesdays then you have to accept that. Otherwise you’re just a bigot. Gender identity is about that indefineable feeling isn't it? You’ve said that quite a bit. As well as we don’t get to define how other people feel?

I’m afraid if David says she’s a lady on Wednesday then she’s a lady on wednesdays.

because there aren't actually any men or fake trans women applying to be on Labour all women shortlists.

How do you know this?

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

I would like clarification on whether this would exclude him from being nominated for this post. I don't know whether I have a female gender identity - would I be excluded from this position?

In terms of AWS, a question you only need to ask in the bizarre wold of Scaremongery Transphobia.

On what basis would you assume that everybody applying for a political position is nice?

Transplants

No I get the point. I suspect the Labour Party were only too well aware of his motivation. And regardless of his motivation, there aren't any men trying to stand on a Labour all women shortlist, only him - doing a stunt. Because other than transphobic people pulling stunts, it hasn't happened.

and yet they thought that entirely irrelevant to the job at hand

You don't actually know what they thought.

Now all those people who didn't have a clue about this know that a man, for whatever reason, is eligible to take a woman's job

A man isn't eligible to take a woman's job. Now everyone will see that it is only transphobic people trying to prove a point that think men will be eligible to take women's jobs.

Anyone want a scone? I cooked them in my gas oven, powered by gas lighting.

In the real world everyone knows you don't have a female gender identity, because there aren't actually any men or fake trans women applying to be on Labour all women shortlists

Lol ever thought of starting a knockabout comedy two piece with SarahAR?

there aren't any men trying to stand on a Labour all women shortlist, only him - doing a stunt.

How are you defining 'man' here?

As mentioned before, I am not clear what the criteria are for being a woman's officer.

Aah SMG - you have just contradicted yourself so many times I really don't know where to begin!

He has a female identify but he doesn't but we all know he hasnt but nobody needs to ask any questions but genuine trans women can but they can't because this because that because whatevers.

You crack me up.

But it is happening elsewhere

What is happening elsewhere? Men pretending to be trans women and getting caught out you mean, because it is obvious they're not trans women?

They knew that 17 of the 19 candidates presented as transgender — some dressed as muxes — weren’t really part of the community.
On Tuesday, the state electoral institute said it was investigating the case. The candidates could be barred from running and their parties fined.

More fake news.

Susan

Though you have just reminded me that I have a leftover scone and all the necessary toppings.

TERFragette whatever you say, you know this is not a genuine trans woman. He pretended to be one for a day a week as a stunt. It hasn't actually happened for real. That is the point. No contradiction. Clear and consistent.

And regardless of his motivation, there aren't any men trying to stand on a Labour all women shortlist, only him - doing a stunt.

What about the delightful man who has stood before as a man but now they are a woman they need to be on a AWS because they are a woman even though they have already stood as a man thereby taking away a place from an actual woman who has actually been at a disadvantage - through actually being a woman? Not a stunt? Right.

This utter farce brings the Inquisition to mind. People being interrogated and tortured, with some trying to prove that yes they really really did actually believe something ridiculous in order to avoid being put to death. Ultimately it's impossible to prove if someone is sincere in their belief or not. And it's ridiculous. Does Pip Bunce really truly, cross their heart and hope to die, believe they're a woman on their woman days? Is it the fishnet tights which demonstrate sincerity? If not, what?

TERFragette whatever you say, you know this is not a genuine trans woman.

Define 'genuine trans woman'?

What is a fake trans woman?

I'm not clear what the difference is between David and for instance Pip Bunce or Eddie Izzard, except that he/she is gender critical. Neither being gender critical nor being aware that your sex is male nor means that you can't be trans.

What about the delightful man who has stood before as a man but now they are a woman they need to be on a AWS because they are a woman even though they have already stood as a man thereby taking away a place from an actual woman who has actually been at a disadvantage - through actually being a woman? Not a stunt? Right.

Yep. That.