The right to bare arms.....for women only

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As a man reading some of these threads, the fear women have of male violence is greater than I realised.

Is a 2nd amendment, for women, a solution?

Pro gun women in America say the gun is the great equaliser. They say it makes them safer. I think it's a good argument.

I would be able to shoot my attacker

You simply don't know how you'd react faced with a real situation. Even if you've been through it once, you don't know what will happen the next time.

And that's only even considering that you'd be able to reach for a gun and it wouldn't be taken away from you.

The may be the worst idea I have ever read on MN.

Male violence is unstoppable, in my opinion.

Having been victim to it on a number of occasions, I would like to stop it.

However, the reality a person who want to be violent will do so. Someone attempted to rob me a knifepoint, if I knew how to prevent that person doing that act, I would. I dont see how it's possible

Unstoppable maybe but reducable yes.

Crime rates for all sorts of crimes differ in different countries for a variety of reasons often interlinked.

Societal views around the level of seriosuness of different types of crime
Liklihood of getting caught
With crimes against women & girls, linked to their position in society (how far are they viewed as peopel and how far as possessions / objects)
etc

Clearly things can change, as they do. It is no longer legal in the UK to rape your wife, and while clearly we have a long way to go, I would think that most people in this country would say it should be a crime. 50 years ago, not so much.

See? All good. We just keep pushing. The only other option is to believe that men are irredeemable, that they are born bad, and there is nothing that can be done, and you won't get much agreement from feminists on that view.

"Someone attempted to rob me a knifepoint, if I knew how to prevent that person doing that act, I would. I dont see how it's possible"

And lacking in imagination....

If that person didn't need money then they wouldn't have robbed you.

A lot of crime is caused by

poverty
lack of opportunity
addiction
and with violent crime I'll throw in
toxic masculinity / glamourisation of violence
the peer group stuff with gangs comes from a mix of the above

So, address these and you reduce crime. You are left with the proper nutters who want to stab people just because, and there are far fewer of them about.

Everyone knows this don't they? Apart from apaprently they don't.

Anybody got a good pattern for a long cardy? I like a good collar like a cowl

Double knit or Aran?

Not really a knitter but I recently bought a lovely open cardi that has pockets! Which I'm not sure I'll use because I think it would look funny, but it's nice to have the option.

So no, I will not be baring my arms, at least not if it's cold.

Double knit :)

I like layers and don't like baring my arms either - which is a problem in hot climates!

I thought this was going to be about men looking not as smart as women in short sleeved shirts in the summer...nope.

What you need is one of those super thin and lightweight cotton cardigans that don't actually button, woman. They're flowy in a boho kind of way if you get the right one, and thin enough not to make you sweat like a pig.

I like layers and don't like baring my arms either - which is a problem in hot climates!

Linen shirt over a vest top can work.

I've got to the age of suddenly understanding the point of three-quarter length sleeves.

I like them in that I don't like faffing about with long sleeves when I wash my hands, and sometimes it's not warm enough for short sleeves.

Also, OP, note that rather than persuading us all to for a British branch of the NRA you've disappointed people who were hoping to have a nice chat about sleeve lengths and cardigans. For shame.

Nothing to stop us using this thread for what it says in the title, kittens.

Slightly ironic that a mans answer to male violence is...

Female violence.

Just shoot em, folks!

The ideal society is a cross between a spaghetti Western and Escape From New York, apparently.

Carrying a weapon makes it likely that weapon will be used against you. Nothing I have ever read about the right to bear arms in America makes me think I'd feel safer there. Quite the opposite in fact. Cardigans are good though.

AngryAttackKittens Ugh, I hate long sleeves when washing up or washing my hands. Long sleeves also get in the way when I'm busy if they're flappy. In summer I like vest tops and when I go out a thin top over it with mid length sleeves.

So annoying when your sleeves slip down and get wet! And then you're sitting around with damp sleeves. Short or elbow length please.

A couple of years ago I got a few really lightweight tops with sleeves just below the elbow with an elasticated band then a nice small frill. They are lovely to wear in the summer and no wet sleeves.

Male violence is not inevitable - indeed human violence is not inevitable. Globally rates of homicide have fallen dramatically over the last few centuries (admittedly this data excludes death in war, which is why there is no massive spike presented for the Holocaust).

As Sardine says, social factors contribute hugely to rates of violence, as does alcohol and other drugs. These are things which can be addressed if we don't view violence as inevitable.

As for the pattern request for a cardigan for womanformallyknownaswoman what about Calligraphy or maybe Abbi Light.

GardenGeek - Appreciated. I actually dont think guns are the answer. However, it could be argued that such a policy constitutes self defence, due to the nature and magnitude of violence women face from me.

If a society, like ours, was committed to reducing violence, no matter the cost. A ban on alcohol would be step one. Violent would be cut in half overnight.

A ban on alcohol would be step one. Violent would be cut in half overnight.

In theory. In practice, not sure that's how it worked out when the US tried prohibition.