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Transwoman complains that The Handmaid's Tale should include them...

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Destinysdaughter · 10/05/2018 15:06

"For most ­women, Hulu’s The Handmaid’s Tale is terrifying and heart-wrenching. The show’s portrayal of a world that is dehumanizing, spiteful, and disgustingly violent toward womanhood feels only a few steps removed from today’s reality. Yet unlike most women, I have found it hard to actually identify into a world where I, as a transgender woman, would already be dead.

The Handmaid’s Tale is set in Gilead, a near-future society where the political fallout of a worldwide infertility crisis and nuclear war led to a nonspecified religious sect gaining political control of America. In this society, fertile women are both venerated and subjugated. They become "handmaids" - a farmed resource, banned from reading and free movement, and subjected to ritualized rape and abuse. Any nonfertile women seen in the show are either torturing the handmaids or serve as housekeepers, as wives, or in other stereotypically domestic roles.

Under the new religious regime, people showing LGBT tendencies, such as having same-sex relationships, are immediately killed as “gender traitors” or sent to a nuclear wasteland to work until they die from radiation poisoning. The only exceptions are the handmaids, whose fertility is precious, and therefore they are protected from the death penalty. Yet this doesn’t stop them from being punished in horrific ways.

It’s not shocking that trans people aren’t represented in this world. Unlike many of our cisgender queer counterparts, transgender people who have started transitioning may find it very hard to go back into the closet to protect ourselves. We are sometimes very visibly transgender due to old-fashioned gender stereotypes that a society like Gilead heavily leans into. We trans people would quickly be branded “gender traitors.”

Even the fertility that protects other queer women in The Handmaid’s Tale may be out of reach for transgender people. Many trans people, especially trans women like myself, become sterile when they take hormones or have gender-confirmation surgery. Even more horrifying, in many countries around the world like Greece, Belgium, and Finland, trans people have to prove they are sterile before they can even change their gender markers. France only just outlawed this practice as inhumane last year.

With all this in mind, it becomes hard for me to identify within the world of The Handmaid’s Tale. How can I feel June’s terror at her situation when I know I would never face it myself? I can sympathize but not empathize with so many of the show's stories. This feeling of being left out can sometimes hurt, especially given the cultural significance that The Handmaid’s Tale has come to represent for a lot of women under the Trump administration.

That’s not to say that I demand trans representation in The Handmaid’s Tale like I do from other TV shows. The Handmaid’s Tale represents an important conversation we need to have about women’s place in the world. With Donald Trump’s attacks on women’s health organizations like Planned Parenthood, women’s reproductive health is very much at stake. It’s a crucial fight that I as a woman without a uterus don’t have the right to suppress. While I am a woman and will always fight for inclusion in women’s spaces, there are battles that cis women face that trans women don’t, and there are battles that cis women don’t face that trans women do. Yet we are all still women. We (should) all stand together to fight for and with each other.

The trans community’s exclusion from the futuristic narrative of The Handmaid’s Tale is understandable. It just becomes emblematic of the daily fears that I face. Every time I hear about the trans military ban, the Department of Education rescinding protections for trans students, a transgender bathroom bill being voted on, or another conservative rally screaming out, “There are only two genders!” I'm reminded that I and trans people like me would likely be the first ones to die if Gilead ever comes to pass.

Yet maybe The Handmaid’s Tale should address this. The series often presents flashbacks showing how Gilead came to be. Perhaps a trans person’s struggles could appear there. Or back in the future world of Gilead, what if a character identified as transgender in this world? How would they hide or suppress it? Or what if there was a “passing” infertile trans woman who desperately had to hide her trans identity from the government? Or a trans man still able to carry babies forced to be a handmaid despite being a man? Adding trans people to the narrative could complicate the story in new and interesting ways that draw attention to not only the oppression of all trans people, but all genders (#ImAvailableforaWritersRoomJob).

I’m preparing to binge every episode of The Handmaid’s Tale. The show’s lack of transgender characters, whether intentional or unintentional, brings up a lot of questions about what the future may hold for the trans community in a dystopian world. Even if a real Gilead comes to pass - and I don't make it through the first act - I still want to know how it ends. I'm just saddened that I may not get to join the fight."

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BeyondParody · 10/05/2018 18:19

Greymisty already picked 'grey' for her username, so was subconsciously showing her literal elephant side.
Exactly the same as mummy jumbo in every way.

Greymisty · 10/05/2018 18:22

I had not considered that moofolk do you have the soul of a cow, I like Scottish highland cows btw, and that's why your moofolk?

I'm greymisty and elephants are Gray...it makes so much sense if I have the soul of an elephant.

Sontaran · 10/05/2018 18:22

I have 5 cattle prods and yet the Aunts only have 1 each - where's my representation?

Greymisty · 10/05/2018 18:23

X post beyond parody!

AllyMcBeagle · 10/05/2018 18:23

Seriously, in a world where so few shows and films pass the bechedel test?

This. There are so few female-led TV programmes and films. Why not complain about the lack of transwomen in any of the many male-led TV programmes and films. Take your pick - there are loads. It always feels like it is women who have to make room for transwomen and in many situations we have so little to begin with.

And here's a brief explanation of the Bechdel test in case any case anyone is unfamiliar with it. It's ridiculous how very few TV programmes/films pass the test:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test

BeyondParody · 10/05/2018 18:25

Silence of the lambs - my favourite film ever - both passes the Bechdel test and has transperson representation. Win-win.

BeyondParody · 10/05/2018 18:27

And mentioning it gives me another opportunity to share my favourite batshit blog post...
www.thesociologicalcinema.com/blog/the-not-so-hidden-transphobia-in-silence-of-the-lambs

Greymisty · 10/05/2018 18:31

Excuse me! You lot should be helping me in my representation as an elephant...all eyes, links, thinking, talking should include elephants.

PositivelyPERF · 10/05/2018 18:33

Silence of the lambs - my favourite film ever - both passes the Bechdel test and has transperson representation. Win-win.

No no no! That’s not a TIM! That’s a man pretending to be a TIM, because they are a bad person and ALL REAL TIMs are lovely.

Greymisty · 10/05/2018 18:37

In silence of the lambs where are the elephants? There's lamds but no elephants Sad

boatyardblues · 10/05/2018 18:40

There ain’t even any lambs, sugar. Total lies!

HotRocker · 10/05/2018 18:42

Ok I have an idea for storyline that might satisfy this person.
Very rich and powerful trans-woman looks so passably fabulous that she somehow manages to convince the authorities that she is actually a woman. Her place in society is a commanders wife, but instead she has her eyes on the handmaid, who just happens to be a secret lesbian. The commanders wife has to convince the handmaid that her penis is actually a lady Dick, and by refusing to sleep with her she is a bigoted cis sexist transphobe, oh and if she refuses she’ll be sent away to the colonies.
It’s just an idea at the moment and needs fine tuning, but I bet it would be a crowdpleaser.

ToeToToe · 10/05/2018 18:42

I have been unable to read to the end of the article. I feel angry about the article. Really quite angry. I would be banned if I said what I thought. (It will have to remain a thought crime....)

I'm going for a lie down now, and a nice glass of wine.

MrsWooster · 10/05/2018 18:44

I am left handed and, AFAIK, the characters in HT are right handed. Margaret Atwood probably tried her best and some part were quite good but I can not empathise with any of these cishanded characters.

PositivelyPERF · 10/05/2018 18:44

Don’t be silly ToeToToe, you can’t lie down with wine, you’ll spill some. Neck it first.

HotRocker · 10/05/2018 18:46

It would be educational too.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 10/05/2018 18:47

How a dull a world to live in where you can only enjoy or learn from art (be it fiction, performance, exhibitions or whatever) only if they directly speak to and about your experience. That’s one of the saddest things I’ve heard in the western world.

This feeling of being left out can sometimes hurt, especially given the cultural significance that The Handmaid’s Tale has come to represent for a lot of women under the Trump administration

I’m very hurt that Top Model leaves out slightly podgy 35 year old mothers with bushy eyebrows.

IndominusRex · 10/05/2018 18:54

Do you know what, why not. Let's have a commander in a dress and a bad wig and a handmaid who formerly identified as a man. That would perfectly demonstrate why biology and not gender identity is the basis of oppression. Thanks for the idea dude!

thebewilderness · 10/05/2018 18:54

MrsWooster

I totes relate to the pain of your exclusion.

ToeToToe · 10/05/2018 18:59

PositivelyPerf Grin Can't waste good wine. It's red too, imagine the stain removal required...

thebewilderness · 10/05/2018 19:06

It does speak to me of the hundreds of years of women's experience being excluded from stories and poems except as targets and tools provided for the use om men.
Still, if you cannot relate to either men or women in a story because they do not identify the same way you identify you have some very serious issues to sort out.

MadBadDaddy · 10/05/2018 19:07
GlitterGlue · 10/05/2018 19:11

Jesus fuck. I didn’t know it was possible to be that lacking in empathy and imagination.

MadBadDaddy · 10/05/2018 19:14

"The Handymans's Tale" lacks something...
(If MA had imagined this day she may have given up - too far fetched!)

ToeToToe · 10/05/2018 19:15

How can I feel June’s terror at her situation when I know I would never face it myself?

How did I manage to feel the men's fear at the beginning of Saving Private Ryan?

Oh yes, that's right, I actually have some empathy and imagination - and it's not all about ME.

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