Amnesty international, women's rights and shon Faye

[Amalfimamma]

Here you are ladies. Read and weep, or laugh

Amnesty have some funny ideas these days - they did a thing about sex being a human right I thing? One of their branches anyway.. A lot of women complained and stopped donating over it.

If Amnesty aren't sure what a woman is, how can we trust them to protect the most vulnerable?

about sex being a human right

That sounds very........rapey....

The draft read thus:

" “Sexual desire and activity are a fundamental human need,” said one footnote in the leaked document. “To criminalize those who are unable or unwilling to fulfill that need through more traditionally recognized means and thus purchase sex, may amount to a violation of the right to privacy and undermine the rights to free expression and health.”"

They have put a whole load of stuff all over their site about how they like women really, honest... But the above speaks for itself. There was a massiveoutcry at the time.

lol @ vaggie

Just googling they were also v slow on FGM, saying for a long time that the fact it was done for cultural reasons made them reluctant to condemn it.

Amnesty? Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.

This doesn't surprise me in the least.

Amnesty are all 'pro sex work' are they not? And there is a pile of old dodgy crap going on in a lot of charities. Like Oxfam and Save the Children. Staffed by lefty misigynist men who call themselves progressive and treat people, particulary women, badly.

The fact of "swerf" and "terf" being used as a pair, is interesting, as what do the two topics have to do with each other?

Given Amnesty's stance on prostition - that it's a "choice" even when the woman is impoverished and most people would accept has no choice - which was also in the original draft IIRC - then given the two go hand-in-hand (why???) then the choice for who gets to speak for women should come as no surprise.

I know logic is long since dead and buried in all this, but why would a person who passionately wants that right to meet/talk about/protect women's rights to be stripped from women and spends so much time focusing on this accept a key role in a festival about defenders of women's rights?

I'm afraid I cottoned on that AI had lost the plot some decades back. Twas a shame.

Should be called Making Women History.

Well spotted Vaggie

I left amnesty over the “sex Is a human right” bullshit. Getting a misogynist man to front this is par for the course for them

Amnesty’s policy on prostitution does seem to place more importance on men’s ‘right’ to buy women than women’s right as a class not to be a puchasable commodity.

Julie Bindel a couple of years ago: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/04/sex-workers-amnesty-international-prostitution-decriminalisation

It all flows quite easily if you don't see women as fully human.

Human rights = men's rights.

In this case, it was their right to exploit desperate women by paying for sex. That is apaprently very very important in the scheme of all the things. Which shows it's all about the men.

How apt, Shon Faye, late of Exeter College, Oxford, which didn't admit women until 1979, and QEH School, which er, still doesn't admit girls, to talk about women's rights.

Yes 'swerf' soon followed 'terf' didn't it?

What did sex-possies call feminists before the 'terf' got coined?

Was it 'anti-sex'? - I can't remember - I think they would try to push it into the category of the religious right. They called it 'moralising'. If not then it was "angry, man-hating, hairy-legged lesbians".

The whole 'safe space for sex workers' thing also preceded the 'safe spaces for trans' I think.

But swerf was then adopted after terf got traction.

It all flows quite easily if you don't see women as fully human.

Yy. Which is why the only women’s rights we’re permitted to care about are the ones men think are important.

Fuck off Amnesty

I stopped donating to Amnesty over the right to sex thing.
This doesn’t surprise me at all, sadly.

I thought pussy hats were transphobic?

Cool, let's get the biggest misogynist we can find to host a day about women's rights the rights of men to get women to suck their dicks and not complain about it.

Sigh...how predictable. I stopped my regular donation to Amnesty when they lost their way in protecting the most vulnerable and went off down the sex is a right route. I had thought someone might have been in touch to query why the payments stopped, but nothing.