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Don't quit Mumsnet

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Dorade · 04/05/2018 06:47

I've seen quite a few GC women on twitter saying they are quitting Mumsnet.

As a strategy that is beyond bonkers.

While there is inconsistency in moderation and daft moves like allowing people to report posts via twitter, the fact remains that Mumsnet has been instrumental in the backlash against the excesses of trans ideology, and setting up a different forum will be completely ineffective by comparison.

I am sure MNHQ are treading a difficult line but us being able to use this forum is immensely valuable. The media take MN seriously. Lurkers are being converted at a rate of knots.

Do not go. Stay and fight.

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Pratchet · 05/05/2018 09:59

Sorry for the derail! We can't afford it, we just spent dollar on building work. I'll have to clean and oil them myself with a toothbrush at this rate.

Theswaggyotter · 05/05/2018 11:36

I’ll add my voice to those saying please stay. This is an important forum and the number of people becoming aware of the problems self id may bring is increasing all the time. That’s why mumsnet is being targeted. We need to keep talking and making more people aware. Please stay and help us to fight on

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Dorade · 05/05/2018 13:43

TBH, if I had been thinking of leaving the steam mop/encaustic tile detail would have made me reconsider.

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Dorade · 05/05/2018 13:44

Derail. Well detail and derail really.

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boatyardblues · 05/05/2018 14:07

Pratchet - you can get them reasonably clean with readily available (lower concentration) brick acid, a wire brush & A LOT of elbow grease (taking care to wear good gloves, sleeved tops & go easy on the grouted joints) but the professionals take it to the next level. /honestly thats the last of it

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 14:18

Boatyard THANKYOU

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 14:18

Dorade lol

MrsWooster · 05/05/2018 14:41

Yes, dorade, me too!!

thebewilderness · 05/05/2018 18:05

whoputthecatout
I know you are right. There is nothing that can be done to me, so I am staying, but I worry for the young ones who just discovered that MN has exposed them to danger.

thebewilderness · 05/05/2018 18:05

Going to find out what a steam mop is now.

Southfields · 05/05/2018 18:57

I'd like to address the misgendering issue please. I have read a lot of posts on here about it but nobody I've read has yet made this point:

Calling a trans person in person by the pronouns they prefer is a COURTESY that has been extended to them for decades so as to not hurt an individual's feelings.

However, this only refers to them when they are hearing you speak the pronouns in their presence, or write them in a note or letter to that person. It doesn't cover talking about them to others when the trans person is not seeing or hearing it.

Therefore, surely, it follows that nobody should be chastised for misgendering on Mumsnet unless the trans person being misgendered is on that actual thread.

SupermatchGame · 05/05/2018 19:04

But is it ok to call someone a N word when they're not on that thread?

I couldn't decide if your post was actually a joke or not.

thebewilderness · 05/05/2018 19:13

It's rather like the title Dr for people with a doctorate degree as opposed to medical doctors, I think.
Some people are adamant that they must be addressed in a way that signals respect and deference, while others find it awkward to have such a fuss made over their level of achievement.

thebewilderness · 05/05/2018 19:15

Raise your game, SmG. This goady stuff is worn out.

SupermatchGame · 05/05/2018 19:21

I quit the game. You just didn't notice.

FrameyMcFrame · 05/05/2018 20:07

I don't understand what's happening but this sounds wrong.

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 20:35

It's more like calling someone a doctor when they aren't a doctor tbh

dianebrewster · 05/05/2018 21:13

You've got it the wrong way round bewelderness! It's medical doctors that get called it as a courtesy! Some of us are proper Doctors! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(title)

LassWiADelicateAir · 06/05/2018 02:05

It's rather like the title Dr for people with a doctorate degree as opposed to medical doctors, I think

It is the other way round. Medical degrees are are Bachelor's degrees and first degrees (Batchelor of medcine/ Batchelor of surgery). They get to call themselves "Dr" but it is a courtesy title.

Doctorate degrees are higher in academic status.

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Dorade · 06/05/2018 13:50

The more I see here and on Twitter the more I am convinced MNHQ have got our backs.

Reasons as follows:

The chance of the majority of people at MNHQ not having been peak transed by now is vanishingly small (ad hoc interns excepted).

MNHQ are giving the shit-stirrers on Twitter enough rope to hang themselves.

They have to be seen to be taking seriously anything that could be perceived as a personal attack as that is in the talk guidelines.

Loads of posts saying 'transwomen are men' have been allowed to stand.

We aren't going to win this battle overnight but I strongly believe MNHQ is an ally and I want to say thank you.

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R0wantrees · 06/05/2018 13:58

There seems to be quite a lot going on.

Don't quit Mumsnet
OlennasWimple · 06/05/2018 14:02

Very reasonable request from MN for the account holder to get in touch with MNHQ to discuss some stuff (standard protocol, I believe, where there are concerns?)

Response? "I tried being nice, but you just wouldn't listen. Now look what you made me do! This is all your fault - if only you had done as you were told, none of this would have happened. Are you happy now? Is this what you wanted?"

Classic abuse tactics Hmm

R0wantrees · 06/05/2018 14:03

link to current discussion here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3241575-Mumsnet-Grass-Account

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