Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

100% Hate-Proof Debate Opportunity!

125 replies

MadBadDaddy · 04/05/2018 00:41

(An invitation to pour scorn on a man for being an old credulous hippy and not for hating women)

Why not? I'm a bit Wine, & you lot look like you could do with cheering up. There is a serious point here, but yes I am Mad, and here's how. I thought I'd share something original that is at least accusation-proof and, in my wildest dreams, debatable!

Here is the plate, hand me my ass. Bonus points for unconscious sexism.

*
There is a magic to MN/Fem boards. I believe in magic.
Some boards feel like a Spell has been cast that aims to make a woman feel safe and trusted, as though it were an actual, physical 'Safe Space' (refuge, etc.).
The words of the Spell are the Rules of the Debate for a particular topic. The words are spoken in parts, in many posts and statements. The Rules of MN/Fem aim to create a 'Safe Space for All Women,' to talk or to listen and not be afraid. Fearless debate needs this as a minimum requirement.

A 'Safe Space' ceases to exist once it is compromised in any way. Any male presence will compromise it. If one woman feels compromised, all women are. A male presence is as much of an intrusion here as it would be in any physical space, but there is a difference.

Any male voice here is not destroying a Safe Space, it is breaking a Spell. The threat is almost identical, but there is no spell in a real-world shelter, just locks and doors. Your shelter has transparent walls and advertises its address. The personality of the board adds the locks & curtains and creates Seclusion. When secluded from Men, Women can feel safe.

Any debate with a Male presence can always be perfectly civil (depending on the male...) but there is a sense that the spell blows away a bit with every post I make. I notice it as I type, and as I read. I am intruding, whatever my intentions.

I see the impatience, irritation or frustration in some posts (not all aimed at me :)), and they could be read as if it were the Spell that is being defended or complained about, rather than the Male presence that is being attacked.

As protective and powerful as it is, a Spell is not real like a wall is, it is an illusion. It is powered by belief. You are not secluded here, but can feel like you are. That is enough for the Spell to work. My voice reminds you of the illusion, but it was an illusion before I arrived.

The Spell serves a much-needed purpose, but it can sometimes be destructive if used without care. You are all magicians, whether you know it or not. If you cast the spell as a defensive reflex, what you are doing is a little like flinching. Sometimes a big, strong Shield can get in your way as much as your attacker's.

I'm not suggesting you change a thing, but just don't be fooled. Seclusion or isolation is a hard place to be if you want to get off your back foot.

As they used to say, blessed be!

OP posts:
Juells · 04/05/2018 16:12

Haven't RTFT but I don't understand why men keep feeling the need to come onto a BOARD THAT IS FUCKING NAMED FEMINISM CHAT to talk at us. FEMINISM CHAT.
FEMINISM CHAT

LangCleg · 04/05/2018 16:21

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

That is all I have to say.

Scabbersley · 04/05/2018 16:22

Under Bird's Eye

BarrackerBarmer · 04/05/2018 16:32

Is there a trans board you frequent that we could join to reciprocate this favour?

Now that we feminists have such ample evidence that transwomen, transmen, nonbinaryfolxxxx and vanilla menmen all enjoy popping along to chat with us here, it seems like we're well overdue a visit from us to your home turf?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/05/2018 16:37

Barack Elementary error there!

Home terf, surely!

Greymisty · 04/05/2018 16:38

I sent see love in OP's posts - can anyone lend me there specs?

MadBadDaddy · 04/05/2018 16:54

@CuriousaboutSamphire don't even ask.

OP posts:
MadBadDaddy · 04/05/2018 17:05
OP posts:
Tinkletinklelittlebat · 04/05/2018 17:59

Ok, I admit the sense of humour you're bringing to this is helping. After the last few weeks it's a bloody refreshing change to have any thread about anything that isn't involving those head shaped dents in walls.

MadBadDaddy · 04/05/2018 19:05

\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/@Tinkletinklelittlebat \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

OP posts:
thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 22:33

I would appreciate it if you would stop amusing yourself at women's expense.

Scabbersley · 04/05/2018 23:51

Yeah sorry I agree with thebewilderness

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 00:25

@thebewilderness would you like me to delete it?

OP posts:
VaggieMight · 05/05/2018 00:31

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at poster's request.

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 00:37

My offer stands. It was a one-off, I thought I was doing the opposite of what you say. If you won't let it die of neglect, I can report it.

OP posts:
LassWiADelicateAir · 05/05/2018 00:50

Mumsnet rules prevent me from saying fuck off

There's a nice analogy for you.
My choice is 'talk, but be nice to the men"
Or "deleted"

Have you never discovered the "hide thread" drop down button?

I haven't read the thread. I could not make sense of the opening post and it is far too try hard. However this thread keeps popping to the top of the pile.

I don't understand why so many of you seem to be sadomasochistically engaging with a poster you seem to despise- yet a thread about a government consultation on domestic violence slips down the page.

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 01:15

"yet a thread about a government consultation on domestic violence slips down the page."

My thoughts exactly.

OP posts:
MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 01:16

but...."if it comforts them to complain, let them be comforted"?

OP posts:
Kinderlosigkeit · 05/05/2018 01:47

But why?

Why the need to mansplain to us? Just, out of the goodness of your heart you figured you'd come protect/explain/teach/enlighten/whatever the women who don't know what's happening in their space?

Are you writing on boards where primarily men interact? If so, have any women ever felt the need to get on there and explain to you the potential pitfalls of your interactions, or the dangers of not understanding what you're doing? I'm genuinely curious.

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 02:07

...Closed...
The proper debates are waiting for you over there>>>>>>>>>>>
If you post here it goes to the top of topic lists.

Blessed Be!

OP posts:
CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/05/2018 06:44

Ah bless! And now he thinks he can also tell us when to stop!

Shall we play "No you leave... no you..."

LassWiADelicateAir · 05/05/2018 08:25

If he annoys you so much why don't you hide the thread?Why waste time on it?

It is quite easy to hide threads. I spend time every day clearing out the new trans threads.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/05/2018 08:47

Lass Possibly because I am enjoying the 'irritation value' as much as he is!

I don't mind sparring with some posters. I don't choose to respond to all of them. But I do like to break up my concentrated work hours with something different, and this is as good as anything else.

hipsterfun · 05/05/2018 10:25

Why not? I'm a bit Wine, & you lot look like you could do with cheering up.

So, basically, “Cheer up, love”?

Too funny.

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 20:15

Listen fans, as flattered as I am, every time you poke this thread it puts it back at the top of the Active Topic List. PM me if you want my life story.

Domestic abuse and other serious topics are outshone by a cheap goad.

I was invited to start a topic.
Read the bits where I offer to delete this thread if anyone thought it was getting in the way or was inappropriate in any way. No-one did (if you disagree, you can report it yourself). It may have value to someone here other than me, so who am I (a man) to decide to delete it?

So pretty please with Cake, take your fighting spirit to a more worthy enemy than me.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page