Charlotte takes a taxi

[TerfinUSA]

Charlotte Clymer was a horrible misogynistic man.

www.change.org/p/stein-huffingtonpost-com-remove-charles-clymer-as-a-contributor

In December Charlotte 'came out as a woman'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101416-Charles-Charlotte-Clymer?messages=100&pg=1

Now Charlotte has suffered transphobia

www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-woman-harassed-lyft-strangers-aid/

Essentially, Charlotte took a Lyft, the driver is confused because they are expecting someone who looks like a 'Charlotte' not a 'Charles', and asks for their name. Charlotte, demands the driver explain themself and gets them to stay the killer words 'you're a man'.

The taxi driver, naturally, has been immediately sacked.

Curiously loss of employment does not seem to have ever been a consequence for Charlotte's long history of misogyny. On the contrary, Charlotte has no problem finding employment.

Now see, your actual Marcus Licinius Crassus, recorded in history as a skilled and highly cunning tactician, would not choose this as the hill to die on.

Can you point us to where it says he was sacked?

I don't think he was sacked, do you?

I'd like the links please to support your assertion that feminist activitists have form for getting low paid men sacked, to prove political points.

Thanks.

And also where these feminists go on a multi-tweet over-the-top sobfest.

A) UK based
B) Recent
C) Actually involves the employee being sacked
D) The employee must be low paid.
E) The employee must be "goaded" into saying something (or have we dropped that one?)

OK you can drop

A and E.

Still ought to be recent (nothing from 1918 thanks) and I really think you should give examples from both the UK and overseas (as we're UK we are more familiar with feminist activism here, I mean if you say X happened in a village in martinique then really how are we supposed to respond? We don't know anything about feminists in martinique or the local culture laws anything, well most of us probabyl don't! UK we are on ground that we understand).

I know you have a lot of examples so why not give them rather than quibbling about a list? I mean post examples that don't meet it if you want, that support your accusation, we can't stop you can we.

The fundamental difference in these cases is that the taxi driver and toilet attendant were sacked for doing their jobs after a loud-mouthed bully complained about them for publicity. The others, such as the man in the Ford case, were bullies/harassers themselves who got called to rights.

In fact

Given that people are always lurking

It would be better for your case to post all teh examples you have irrespective of whether they are at all similar to the one in the OP

So that you can show the lurkers that you weren't just talking shite.

Marcus, you're cracking me up

I never thought when I opened MN this morning that this user would provide so much entertainment.

Poor driver.

Lyft sacking him is ridiculous. A company i will avoid.

but I think we're being asked to pretend it wasn't to save Marcus's embarrassment.

Yes that's it. Because CF complaining about something on Facebook is exactly what that guy was referencing on Twitter. Do you really think given Clementine's form that if it was anything to do with domestic abuse she wouldn't have mentioned it to his employer? Come on.

"This syd agent thinks it's funny to joke about women making sandwiches for him

Her own words.

No he wasn't sacked, that's true, but that's not from her lack of trying was it?

Right, OK, and he wasn't sacked.

Also, she didn't ask for him to be sacked, from what that tweet says.

I'm still not super convinced on the context but we can let that go.

Let's have all the other examples, please.

We must be due a "you know what, I've wasted far too much energy on this and I'm not going to bother any more" pretty soon.

TinyRick
And also where these feminists go on a multi-tweet over-the-top sobfest.

They are remarkable things, aren't they, these multi-tweet things. They drip-feed you the "trauma", every detail duly noted and recorded for the world to see in 140-word snippets, evidence accumulated, heartache displayed. I've never seen the like.

From the Independent article, these are small number of other things that have been said to clemetine ford:

"You deserve to be gangraped by a pack of aids infested n**s. Die, f*king bitch."

From Indy she has been "branded a whore, a “bitch who should kill herself” and even told she needed to be shot in the face after reporting a male Facebook user to the Meriton Group."

What are your views on these comments?

Having looked a bit more at some of the articles, it seems she writes feminist articles and gets an awful lot of these types of comments, and has taken to "naming and shaming" the men who send them. That seems fair enough to me, TBH.

In the context, it makes sense that she posted a sexist msg that a man sent her, and said women you might want to avoid this one.

Anyhoo. He wasn't sacked.

Let's have those other examples now please.

"We must be due a "you know what, I've wasted far too much energy on this and I'm not going to bother any more" pretty soon."

Indeed

So much MRActivism is reversal, isn't it.

Just a general observation.

Those things she has had sent to her are awful.

SardinesAreYum
"We must be due a "you know what, I've wasted far too much energy on this and I'm not going to bother any more" pretty soon."

But not before he calls out straw-man, ad hominin, and makes an appeal the J of Peterson before all the toys get thrown out of the pram [baby sucking dummy]

I have my plants - was hoping to pop back in to find swathes of feminists that had got people sacked for literally doing their job...but no. How odd.

But not before he calls out straw-man, ad hominin, and makes an appeal the J of Peterson before all the toys get thrown out of the pram [baby sucking dummy]

Very pleasant. Bravo. Might have been a trifle more devastating if it made any sense. A really nice first try though. You can reward yourself with your "I was a big brave girl on the internet being really rude to strangers because they have an opinion i dont share" badge.

Also, she didn't ask for him to be sacked, from what that tweet says

Neither did Charlotte and from what I can see she didn't even @ the company until after it had been resolved. But benefit of the doubt only works one way eh?

So much MRActivism is reversal, isn't it.

See, we clearly disagree with each other on this thread, but wouldn't it be nice, just for once for someone to be able to criticise feminism without being referred to as a male/mra. Does that not get boring? Or do you view it as some sort of trump card you throw on the table and that's the argument won?

The kids are home from school now, so I'll be spending time with them. I'll be back tomorrow with my very very specific home work. It'll be interesting to see tomorrow what excuses are used against it's validity.

So the sandwich guy posted a misogynistic post which was "joking" about domestic violence. Clementine told on him, his employers said they'd talk to him about it and he wasn't sacked, and that't the only example you can give of a feminist getting someone sacked [baffled]

It's not quite the same as a low-paid worker being immediately sacked for doing his job, is it?

Am I missing something?

There is something seriously wrong with people who think that "jokes" about women with their faces bashed in are funny

"The kids are home from school now, so I'll be spending time with them"

Aha [lightbulb]

Marcus being really rude to strangers I was really rude??? If you want a safe space I suggest you try another website. Remember: you have a right to freedom of expression, we reserve the right to mock you for said expression . I was fun while it lasted.

But you haven't given us the examples!!!!!

I have an image of Marcus spinning on his heel with an epic flounce, toga swirling and little cape swinging outwards dramatically as he marches away.

Everything the TRA's are doing has been played out before. Are feminists genuinely white washing this part of their activism, or are you pretending that somehow it's different?

You don't half talk through your backside.

Just so you know I'm not interested in having a conversation with you about it. While I've been working I think everyone here has already said what needs to be.

See, we clearly disagree with each other on this thread, but wouldn't it be nice, just for once for someone to be able to criticise feminism without being referred to as a male/mra. Does that not get boring? Or do you view it as some sort of trump card you throw on the table and that's the argument won?

I'd love to if you actually showed us some evidence of a feminist trying to get a man sacked for doing their job.