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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Charlotte takes a taxi

127 replies

TerfinUSA · 03/05/2018 07:46

Charlotte Clymer was a horrible misogynistic man.

www.change.org/p/stein-huffingtonpost-com-remove-charles-clymer-as-a-contributor

In December Charlotte 'came out as a woman'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101416-Charles-Charlotte-Clymer?messages=100&pg=1

Now Charlotte has suffered transphobia

www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-woman-harassed-lyft-strangers-aid/

Essentially, Charlotte took a Lyft, the driver is confused because they are expecting someone who looks like a 'Charlotte' not a 'Charles', and asks for their name. Charlotte, demands the driver explain themself and gets them to stay the killer words 'you're a man'.

The taxi driver, naturally, has been immediately sacked.

Curiously loss of employment does not seem to have ever been a consequence for Charlotte's long history of misogyny. On the contrary, Charlotte has no problem finding employment.

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53rdWay · 03/05/2018 10:06

indeed, Teacuphiccup. Any bets on how long it takes before Hugo Schwyzer tries this too? I see Hugo’s back on Twitter as of a couple of a months ago...

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 10:08

Shame there's no such thing as a personality transplant.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 10:09

I think the cruelest thing all of us could possibly do to Hugo is ignore him completely.

ScaredPAD · 03/05/2018 10:12

It scares me there's such a public groupthink about this that people are all for sacking the poor taxi driver.

Wanderabout · 03/05/2018 10:28

The legal threats are chilling.

IndominusRex · 03/05/2018 10:41

Poor taxi driver

CaitlynsCat · 24/06/2018 22:44

'Charlotte goes to the toilet'

wtop.com/dc/2018/06/dc-restaurant-expels-transgender-woman-who-used-womens-restroom/

NotTerfNorCis · 24/06/2018 22:46

Wow what will Charlotte get up to next? I'm sure we'll hear soon!

KittyKlaws · 25/06/2018 09:09

I am so angry for the man who lost his job. That's right put some person just working for a living out of work because you are a narcissistic misanthrope and a bully who gets off on having power over others.

Yes, this really fuels the sympathy - I imagine the man who lost his job is struggling with the empathy and the sympathy now. He might well be feeling the rage - I know I am.

Ereshkigal · 25/06/2018 09:11

Hideous narcissist.

Ereshkigal · 25/06/2018 09:12

That's not an attack on Clymers appearance, it means really terrible, screenshot fans!

PurpleCrowbar · 25/06/2018 09:15

Does Charlotte play any sport, by any chance?

Or fancy running for public office on a nice inclusionary shortlist? FFS.

FlyTipper · 25/06/2018 09:21

All overblown in my view. So what if some bloke in a cab isn't sure if Charlotte is the person in his cab. I've had far worse experiences in cabs and on public transport - agressive or passive agressive drivers, nasty comments - sorry but this happens all the time. I don't get out of the cab shaking and crying. And is it the worse crime in the world when someone vaguely challenges your gender? I wouldn't like a cab driver to think I was a man, but I'm sure it happens to many non-feminine women. If you're a bloke going around in a dress, you will get weird looks and comments. Simply the fact of the lifestyle this person has chosen. Toughen up!

MarcusCrassus · 25/06/2018 09:27

Bullying working class people is activism, apparently

I am so angry for the man who lost his job. That's right put some person just working for a living out of work because you are a narcissistic misanthrope and a bully who gets off on having power over others

They are literally copying the feminism playbook, and only now there's a problem with it?

Everything the TRA's are doing has been played out before. Are feminists genuinely white washing this part of their activism, or are you pretending that somehow it's different?

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 10:23

Examples please.

Specific, recent (ish) UK examples.

Not something that happened in USA in 1904 and stuff like that.

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 10:32

When it comes to taxis , we had John warboys. He lost his job, but only way down the line.

I have a horrible feeling you might be thinking of #metoo? They've only just arrested Harvey Weinstein, I've seen no other arrests I don't think. A few non apologies. That's it. A man at work said "this means I can't even look at a woman, how am I supposed to work with them". Is that the sort of thing you're thinking of?

MarcusCrassus · 25/06/2018 11:10

Specific, recent (ish) UK examples

Any other qualifiers you'd like to add to that?

I have a horrible feeling you might be thinking of #metoo? They've only just arrested Harvey Weinstein, I've seen no other arrests I don't think. A few non apologies. That's it. A man at work said "this means I can't even look at a woman, how am I supposed to work with them". Is that the sort of thing you're thinking of?

And you'd be absolutely wrong.

I'm thinking of the likes of Adria Richards and Clementine Ford. Google* is also your friend in this.

*Other search engines are available.

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 11:16

No, you need to tell me.

I'm not sitting here googling to find examples of where feminists have goaded low paid people into saying something obvious and then getting them sacked, to prove a point.

you made the claim, let's have the evidence.

MarcusCrassus · 25/06/2018 11:52

Ah so now they must have "goaded" them in to saying something obvious? Any other goal posts you want to move?

Why is the holding of a mirror to the actions of your political bedfellows so offensive to you? Why wriggle and squirm and try to reframe it?

Do you honestly think online campaigns to have a man sacked (be it about the shirt he wears, to comments he's made on Twitter or comments made face to face) are somehow unacceptable when TRA's are conducting them, but are fine for feminists?

I thought one positive of this nonsense argument between feminists and TRA's was that finally they could see just how ugly some of the identity politics tactics are, when actually turned on them. This sudden demand for free speech, an end to no platforming, and calling out people for actively looking to get people sacked would be applied to all sides. Sadly it appears that's not the case.

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 12:00

OK you can take goaded out.

Show me the evidence that you have of feminist activists getting low paid poeple sacked.

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 12:02

If it's so common then you must have lots of examples.

I asked for UK and relatively recentky which seems fair. You mentioned two women, I've heard of one, she is australian, Clementine Ford.

What did she do anyway, which low paid person did she get sacked and why?

+all your UK examples please.

SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 12:07

I did google clementine ford fwiw.

In response to an article about misognyny etc a man called her a slut online and followed it up with suggestion that she would "jibber less with a cock in [her] mouth".

The man's employers sacked him.

This is your example?

I'm still waiting on the recent UK cases by the way.

SweetGrapes · 25/06/2018 12:21

Just googled Adria Richards too.

She was at in IT conference, overheard guys behind her make innuendo laden jokes based on various hardware. She went on twitter and complained (put a picture of the men).

One of the men was fired. Twittershit storm landed on her head (rape threats et all) and she got fired too.

Yes, that's the exact same thing as what Clymers did here - if you are completely deluded!

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SardinesAreYum · 25/06/2018 12:28

I also think she's american.

Still waiting for exmaples from recently (ish) in the UK where feminists have set out to get low paid people fired for not much at all.