Charlotte takes a taxi

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Charlotte Clymer was a horrible misogynistic man.

www.change.org/p/stein-huffingtonpost-com-remove-charles-clymer-as-a-contributor

In December Charlotte 'came out as a woman'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101416-Charles-Charlotte-Clymer?messages=100&pg=1

Now Charlotte has suffered transphobia

www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-woman-harassed-lyft-strangers-aid/

Essentially, Charlotte took a Lyft, the driver is confused because they are expecting someone who looks like a 'Charlotte' not a 'Charles', and asks for their name. Charlotte, demands the driver explain themself and gets them to stay the killer words 'you're a man'.

The taxi driver, naturally, has been immediately sacked.

Curiously loss of employment does not seem to have ever been a consequence for Charlotte's long history of misogyny. On the contrary, Charlotte has no problem finding employment.

Seems we are googling because this poster who made the accusations can't be bothered to back them up.

c'est la vie

Interesting examples though.

Keen to hear the recent UK ones where feminist activists have had low paid people sacked to make a point.

@SardinesAreYum Thanks for pointing out the pay disparity. #donglegate guy was a well-paid software developer who violated conference code of conduct. Lyft guy was a precariat gig worker who was doing his job properly.

It was never Adria's intent to get anyone fired, it probably never even occurred to her that the joker's company would do so because women, especially Black women, are so seldom taken seriously. She certainly didn't have a community threatening legal action from "at least five legal teams" to back her up.

Adria hasn't worked in tech since, no one will hire her because they know they'll be targeted if they do. Compare and contrast James Damore, who, after Google fired him for that memo, had men who run tech companies offering him jobs on the basis of their agreement with his memo and not his technical skills.

I think I may have mentioned in the past that my industry is really really toxic if you have a vulva.

So it has to be a UK feminist now? Whoooshhhh let's move those goal posts again

I only ask because it appears Charlotte is American?

OK, let's do this for feminists who are both UK and non-UK. Can you provide an example better than the supremely shit examples you've tried so far? They were really really shit examples.

Why were they shit examples, other than the fact you didn't like them?

Is Clementine Ford a feminist? Yes.
Did she try and get a man sacked from his work because he did something she didn't like? Yes.

I can see why it's nice to add little caveats here and there, "from the UK" "low paid people" (as if that makes it better) "goaded into saying something" because otherwise you might realise you're all raging hypocrites......

But sure, I'll have a look under those very precise set of parameters, because of course the goal posts won't be moved again.

"because he did something she didn't like? " - sorry, can you clarify what you're referring to here?

I'm not entirely sure Clementine Ford is a good example.

Being called a slut, sent photos of male genitals and told she would "gibber less with a cock in her mouth" isn't quite the same as being asked her name, is it?

"Did she try and get a man sacked from his work because he did something she didn't like?" - no, she didn't.

Do you have any actual, relevant examples of feminists having low-paid workers sacked for doing really nasty things like saying "what is your name?" or "have you booked a space in this taxi?".

You must have loads, surely.

The relevant phrase is "collapse of stout party".

Lol at MarcusCrassus - so funny that talk of 'moving the goal posts' covertly leads to him avoiding giving examples other than the two already discussed (by the feminists, you'll notice, not him). Such a cad.

Or low-paid workers (like toilet attendants, retail workers or receptionists) being asked to "gate keep" because it's seemingly unthinkable to say "women this way, men this way" without needing to weasel in something about things being decided on a "case by case basis"

just how ugly some of the identity politics tactics are

Since when was feminism part of identity politics Marcus? You are seriously confused dude.

Being called a slut, sent photos of male genitals and told she would "gibber less with a cock in her mouth" isn't quite the same as being asked her name, is it?

Well I was talking about the bloke who worked for an airline who told her to make him a sandwich. You know the one, she tagged his workplace in the reply, in an attempt to get him sacked. But fair enough she does have form for this, easy to get confused.

Would you accept Charlotte saying this?

Marcus Crassus was also a talented orator and one of the most energetic and active advocates of his time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Licinius_Crassus#Family_and_background

Someone needs to re-think their username.

Since when was feminism part of identity politics Marcus? You are seriously confused dude

Since always?
Are you honestly suggesting feminism doesn't come under identity politics?

A remarkably thin skin to go with a self-aggrandising username. Great.

Are you honestly suggesting feminism doesn't come under identity politics?

Nope I am not honestly suggesting this. Feminism doesn't "come under" anything.

Marcus you're trying to make a point, and being obtuse about which example you mean is just silly. Be specific and preferably give a link that outlines the incident you're referring to.

I asked for UK examples right from the start so didn't move any goalposts.

You seem to know the posters here will all be familiar with everything people like clementine ford do - why would we know all this? More likely we will know about women in our country. When I googled clementine ford gets man sacked, the cock in the mouth thing was the first thing that came up. Then you say " You know the one, she tagged his workplace in the reply, in an attempt to get him sacked. "... No? Can you put some links up please.

And we are expected to call this lipstick wearing misogynistic bully, a woman.

Nope I am not honestly suggesting this. Feminism doesn't "come under" anything

The dictionary would suggest otherwise?

identity politics
noun
noun: identity politics
a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

The next is from Wikipedia so not the best source granted.

Identity politics refers to political positions based on the interests and perspectives of social groups with which people identify. Identity politics includes the ways in which people's politics are shaped by aspects of their identity through loosely correlated social organizations. Examples include social organizations based on age, religion, social class or caste, culture, dialect, disability, education, ethnicity, language, nationality, sex, gender identity, generation, occupation, profession, race, political party affiliation, sexual orientation, settlement, urban and rural habitation, and veteran status.

On the identity politics thing

Not an area |I know much about

Wiki says this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

Sounds very american.

I thought is was about being oppressed because of what you "identify as" as opposed to things which you simply are - obviously there is some overlap! It would be an interesting thread but not this one.

On this one I am waiting for the link about the aeroplane thing where the australian woman got someone sacked for not doing much at all + all the other examples (prefererably closer to home but maybe that is proving a bit tricky).

Feminism is about women and woman isn't an identity...