Charlotte takes a taxi

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Charlotte Clymer was a horrible misogynistic man.

www.change.org/p/stein-huffingtonpost-com-remove-charles-clymer-as-a-contributor

In December Charlotte 'came out as a woman'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101416-Charles-Charlotte-Clymer?messages=100&pg=1

Now Charlotte has suffered transphobia

www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-woman-harassed-lyft-strangers-aid/

Essentially, Charlotte took a Lyft, the driver is confused because they are expecting someone who looks like a 'Charlotte' not a 'Charles', and asks for their name. Charlotte, demands the driver explain themself and gets them to stay the killer words 'you're a man'.

The taxi driver, naturally, has been immediately sacked.

Curiously loss of employment does not seem to have ever been a consequence for Charlotte's long history of misogyny. On the contrary, Charlotte has no problem finding employment.

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Let's leave the identity politics stuff for another thread.

On this thread, I want to see links:

• The woman from australia getting a man sacked for asking her to make him a snadwich
• Other examples of feminst activits getting low paid men sacked to make a point, in the UK
• And overseas as well if you like

It's a definition, seems american, really not here nor there.

I'd rather not derail this off into discussions about what ID politics is / isn't.

I'm really keen to see Marcus posts the links to support their accusation that feminist activists get low paid people sacked for trivial reasons, to prove political points.

At least give us a link about the sandwich / aeroplane sacking incident to start off with. That seems to be one that you have to hand.

Can't do a direct link, a screen shot will have to do.

Your example is a woman making a complaint about poor service to a service providing company? And that's it?

Sardines

If Charlotte was tweeting that or the earlier tweet I posted would you think it's fair and acceptable?

Your example is a woman making a complaint about poor service to a service providing company? And that's it?

No it's not. It's in response to a comment he made on her Twitter

So, this man didn't ask her to make him a sandwich. He publicly posted a "meme" which joked about domestic abuse and battering women.

So, this man didn't ask her to make him a sandwich

Really?

Can you explain or link to the whole thread, I have no idea from that screenshot what is being referred to or why she is being referenced in this man's tweet. He didn't know her, why is he tagging her in his tweets?

I'm not convinced that this line of argument is winning the day Marcus.

Let's call this example "inconclusive". What about a more persuasive example from the many hundreds that must surely exist?

I did google (sigh) as your "evidence" is a bit flimsy, posting a couple of tweets doesn't give much at all.

Is this the man who posted a meme with a women beaten and bleeding on the floor with the caption about she wouldn't make me a sandwich, or something? That's the google result.

Oh sorry not on the floor, just her face covered in bruises.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/feminist-writer-clementine-ford-is-highlighting-facebooks-hypocritical-community-guidelines-a6958696.html

This is the only sandwich related clemetine ford result google is giving me. Is this what you're talking about?

Not really the same though is it, he didn't get sacked. All he had to do was 'apologise' to Ford on Twitter. I bet he was high-fived behind the scenes for the super awesome sammich joke he got to say to a famous feminist.

Where as Clymer has managed to get two staff swiftly fired for simply doing their job.

Was he sacked, the man in the tweet?

What is the context of the sandwich comment?

We await further info with interest.

plus all the other examples please of feminist getting low paid men sacked for doing nothing really, to prove a political point.

Marcus - I am on a day off and sitting in a lovely coffee shop at a plant nursery and am just about to spend a load of cash on plants...don't have time to do a full history of the cases that you provided as evidence...so it does just look like you are providing half a story here.if you could expand on what actually happened and how you think it links to the Clymer cases that would be fab.

Oh, that's what the sandwich reference is SardinesAreYum. A woman's beaten face with the caption "He told me to make him a sandwich".

The argument would seem to be that Clementine Ford was in the wrong for complaining to an employer about their employee making reference to this in trying to put her down.

This line of argument really looks like an uphill battle.

Sardines and Assasinated

No DV meme, simply a very stupid and immature reply to one of her tweets. She tagged his employers in it. Whether this was an attempt to get him sacked or was an attempt to "ruin his life" (which she sets out to do her own admission.) I don't know.

The mental gymnastics on the go here is incredible. So screen shots showing her own words aren't acceptable and are "flimsy"
I must provide evidence which is;
A) UK based
B) Recent
C) Actually involves the employee being sacked
D) The employee must be low paid.
E) The employee must be "goaded" into saying something (or have we dropped that one?)

Any other hoops to jump through before FWR posters acknowledge that both sides of this debate engage in this same shitty behaviour? Because the way this conversation is going this morning suggests that posters here are not going to see it regardless.

Can't find what her tweet was, only the response, presumably you can summarise what her tweet was about? What in your opinion is the "joke" about making a sandwich about?

Can't find what her tweet was, only the response, presumably you can summarise what her tweet was about? What in your opinion is the "joke" about making a sandwich about?

The go to place MRA'S and misogynists like on the internet. "Make me a sandwich" Have you honestly never heard that?

Well you said you had loads of examples of femininists doing what the person in the OP did ie getting a low paid person sacked for political reasons when they had done arguably nothing wrong.

You said this

"Are feminists genuinely white washing this part of their activism, or are you pretending that somehow it's different?"

Now you need to give us some decent evidence that this happens a lot.

So, let's have it.

It's pretty clear the joke was about this:

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/feminist-writer-clementine-ford-is-highlighting-facebooks-hypocritical-community-guidelines-a6958696.html

but I think we're being asked to pretend it wasn't to save Marcus's embarrassment.

Did the sandwich guy get sacked?

Poster says apparently not.

Was he referring to the sandwich / smashed in face meme in his tweet / was there other context?

You tell us.

Also all the other cases where feminist activists have got men sacked please.

Nope. I try and avoid MRAs, misogynists and the arse end of the Internet as much as humanly possible. I have no idea which internet site you're referring to.

As a result of this thread I have seen the "meme" photograph which I assume is being referenced in the quote. But please clarify if I'm mistaken about that.

Erm

Having googled, you know, like you can't be arsed to do to support your own accusations, it seems the DV "joke" sandwich thing was quite famous at the time

Are you sure he wasn't referencing that? What makes you so sure?