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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Shon Faye hassling mumsnet

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SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2018 13:59

twitter.com/shonfaye/status/991568961513893888?s=19

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MarvelleGazelle · 02/05/2018 19:44

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Scabbersley · 02/05/2018 19:44

Nappies could well be transphobic actually

spontaneousgiventime · 02/05/2018 19:45

ReluctantCamper Thanks - not.

After your rather calm reaction to felching I Googled too. My dinner wants to make a reappearance.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 19:45

My cat is transphobic. She keeps hiding under the bed, which seems exclusionary. What scared her under there was some men working in the garden, so it's misandry too.

CharlieParley · 02/05/2018 19:45

This is what I wrote: On the matter of pronouns, I might offer up a "they" if I deem it absolutely necessary, but I'm not going to mis-sex any woman-hating trans-identifying male.

This is what you wrote: Asserting that trans women are 'woman-hating trans-identifying males' because they want to be referred to by their reassigned sex is transphobic.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? Accusing others of transphobia because one has not understood what was said, makes one look just a little foolish. Do you even understand what real transphobia is?

I qualified the word trans-identifying male by preceding it with woman-hating. I'm not giving much away here if I say that if you identify with, fight for and respect women born women/natal women/biological females I will respect you in turn and use your preferred pronouns (within reason - up for grabs are he/she/they. I do have limits after all).

You see, it's my speech you're policing here and I happen not to believe in the gender fairy. Now you can use whatever pronouns you want about yourself and other people. And maybe it annoys them if you get it wrong and maybe it doesn't. But that's your choice to make based on your belief. I of course am making my own based on my lack of belief. This right is protected in the ECHR articles 9 and 10.

FermatsTheorem · 02/05/2018 19:45

"Under bird's eye." Lemon wins the internet.

My midwife had a knitted utereus and vagina to demonstrate (a) how the cervix stretched and (b) how the baby rotated on the way out.

TerfinUSA · 02/05/2018 19:46

Do they still make boy nappies and girl nappies?

poshme · 02/05/2018 19:46

Noeffingidea
Phew! I was worried.
VAGINA
VAGINA
VAGINA
VAGINA
VAGINA
VAGINA
VAGINA
^ that's alotta fagina.

poshme · 02/05/2018 19:47

Sorry.

Back to birds eye peas

poshme · 02/05/2018 19:48

#justaregularmum

Actually, mostly irregular.

TrollHunterGeneral · 02/05/2018 19:49

back to R erasure

oh AL'mour

ErrolTheDragon · 02/05/2018 19:51

Matthew Paris in the times today alerted me to 'peak guardian' being a thing. This link is a few years old, but I thought people might like number 9 (though surely vulva not vagina?)

www.buzzfeed.com/scottybryan/peak-guardian-2015?utm_term=.xqRlJ3nd78#.qkMp3KJZBW

Springnowplease · 02/05/2018 19:51

poshme, your post reminded me of this clip from life of Brian

AnnUnderTheFryingPan · 02/05/2018 19:51

FFS.

If I call someone a twat, it isn’t because of their gender. It’s because of their behaviour. But If I expressed the opinion that I consider SF’s behaviour to be twattish it would be deemed a personal attack so I won’t.

I miss the days of Mumsnet when you could call a cunt a cunt.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 19:52

Are Sean and Shon really pronounced the same way? In my head the vowel sounds are different.

GruffaloPants · 02/05/2018 19:53

My pronoun of choice is vagina-bearer. Or maybe fanny-wielder...

Lemonjello · 02/05/2018 19:53
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Flooffloof · 02/05/2018 19:53

So ummm if I want the preferred pronoun "you"
That would make for some interesting conversations yes?
"See you over there, you likes coffee with sugar.

OH my I can't wait now.

thebewilderness · 02/05/2018 19:54

I think we should refuse to talk about people like this.
They are unpleasant and not very interesting.

MarvelleGazelle · 02/05/2018 19:54

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Ellenripleysalienbaby · 02/05/2018 19:55

As someone on another thread the other day, these days you would have to call someone an atrocious ciscunt.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 02/05/2018 19:56

I'm listening bewilderness.

AnnUnderTheFryingPan · 02/05/2018 19:57

Bagsy ‘atrociousciscunt’ as my user name.

MarvelleGazelle · 02/05/2018 19:58

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IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 02/05/2018 20:00

Angry

American English innit?