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Shon Faye hassling mumsnet

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SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2018 13:59

twitter.com/shonfaye/status/991568961513893888?s=19

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spontaneousgiventime · 02/05/2018 17:52

Also, that dishonest bastard has posted deleted posts from another thread not THIS one

Note the date

Lol.

Gotcha!

MarvelleGazelle · 02/05/2018 17:52

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LangCleg · 02/05/2018 17:52

Oh ok. I do remember quoting someone else's insult about Shon on a previous thread. Perhaps that was it. It was a funny insult and not mine but an insult nonetheless. Fair dos.

Thank heavens! Fish fingers are not transphobic!

CharlieParley · 02/05/2018 17:52

My goodness but how empty is a life spent patrolling mumsnet threads...

Life is so unbearably short and this is considered worthwhile?

On the matter of pronouns, I might offer up a "they" if I deem it absolutely necessary, but I'm not going to mis-sex any woman-hating trans-identifying male.

I am not obliged to support a complete stranger's individual belief system. Good grief and where would that lead us? Would I have to accept and parrot the beliefs of woman-hating islamic fundamentalists or woman-hating pro-lifers picketing abortion clinics or woman-hating incels dreaming of rape and murder? Of flat earthers, creationists, ufologists and anti-vaxxers? Where does it end?

I do have a question for all of you here though - should narcissism not be starved of the oxygen required to grow? Are we not feeding it with threads like this? I honestly do not know what the right answer is of course, but if you call yourself a career transsexual who writes for attention, should we really be giving you that attention?

Springnowplease · 02/05/2018 17:52

Embarrassing much?

So funny.

How many TRAs are missing their tea because their fingers are poised over the report button on MN? So much frothing.

Elendon · 02/05/2018 17:54

All men are she and they now.

Didn't you get the memo?

Maybe the erasure isn't what we think it is.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 17:54

Yes leyat, so use first person

PencilsInSpace · 02/05/2018 17:54

I agree MNHQ. Why are you giving in to these horrible, bullying men? Please, stop it.

They're not just giving in, they're joining in.

Shon Faye hassling mumsnet
OvaHere · 02/05/2018 17:57

Honestly if MN are going to delete posts because people are making daft jokes about erasers or fishfingers they are making it worse. People are going to assume what was deleted was far worse than it actually was.

I can't get too worked up about people wittering on twitter about how evil Mumsnetters are. If anything people who are not pomo addled will come here to rubber neck and may end up staying.

ElenOfTheWays · 02/05/2018 17:59

I don't like fish fingers, (clearly I am fish finger exclusionary - bring on the hate) However, a quick inventory of my freezer reveals potato waffles, crispy chicken and steam veg bags. I hope Bird's Eye are taking note. Grin

My preferred pronouns are "not cis" and... "DEFINTELY not cis". I will accept "supreme matriarch" if it's easier.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 17:59

Look, this is an orchestrated attack

Shon Faye hassling mumsnet
ErrolTheDragon · 02/05/2018 18:01

It's fair enough MNHQ knows what sort of things are being complained about - I trust most mods to make sensible decisions about posts which genuinely are breaking talk guidelines or transphobic (there will inevitably be some) and which are actually just women speaking freely about matters which affect women and children.

OvaHere · 02/05/2018 18:01

I am not obliged to support a complete stranger's individual belief system. Good grief and where would that lead us? Would I have to accept and parrot the beliefs of woman-hating islamic fundamentalists or woman-hating pro-lifers picketing abortion clinics or woman-hating incels dreaming of rape and murder? Of flat earthers, creationists, ufologists and anti-vaxxers? Where does it end?

I suppose it ends with having to hold all beliefs equally. So you'd have to be both pro choice and pro life. Believe that the earth is both flat and round. Cognitive dissonance for everyone!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 18:02

And Shon is enjoying it. No 'hurt' feelings here. Even when the screenshots are not from this thread, even when it's lies

Shon Faye hassling mumsnet
Elendon · 02/05/2018 18:02

My goodness but how empty is a life spent patrolling mumsnet threads...

Maybe they like the misery.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 18:03

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

peepholepringle · 02/05/2018 18:05

If only there was a forum out there available for women to be able to discuss matters that affect them. Especially matters that could end up affecting them in an extremely negative way! Oh wait...😒

MsGameandWatching · 02/05/2018 18:06

Why thank you permission, I thought with deletion, my words were gone forever Sad. I copied it myself after I wrote it actually, I quite liked it too.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 18:06

Assigned surely rather than saying loooooool it should be either lllllllllllol or lollllllllll or even lllllllllollllllll to even make sense?

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 18:08

You are welcome ms

PencilsInSpace · 02/05/2018 18:10

It's fair enough MNHQ knows what sort of things are being complained about - I trust most mods to make sensible decisions about posts which genuinely are breaking talk guidelines or transphobic (there will inevitably be some) and which are actually just women speaking freely about matters which affect women and children.

Up until the last couple of days I'd have agreed with you.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 18:10

That looks like BINARY code permission Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 02/05/2018 18:11
  • Honestly if MN are going to delete posts because people are making daft jokes about erasers or fishfingers they are making it worse. People are going to assume what was deleted was far worse than it actually was.

I just had a quick scan, I don't think there are that many deletions on this thread, other than 'misgendering '. MNHQ decided on a redline on that - well, I may think that is not fully compatible with free speech, but it's a simple rule which isn't impossible to adhere to. There is no compulsion to refer to anyone using a pronoun you believe to be inappropriate.

TERFousBreakdown · 02/05/2018 18:12

People are going to assume what was deleted was far worse than it actually was.

^^this!

My deleted post (which I'm not going to quote; I'm not being deliberately goady) contained ...

a) a somewhat snarky potential comeback at being asked for my pronouns during introductions - nothing that IME exceeded the quintessentially British tendency towards sarcasm and which could - and this is arguably relevant - easily be the serious answer to such a question of a person who doesn't really get between-the-lines communication, e.g. my ASD friend, who constantly reacts in such ways ...

b) a personal opinion about how mature or otherwise this type of behaviour is.

No individual was even mentioned, never mind misgendered.

Other deleted posts have included random roams and erasure puns and double entendres.

Do we get to take offense at the fact that the deletions might be taken to mean we said truly terrifying stuff? Taken in combination with claims on Twitter, surely the fact that people can't see what was actually said is extremely problematic?

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 18:13

Up until the last couple of days I'd have agreed with you.

Indeed - it is as though MNHQ has been misinformed by key law-bending TRAs that referring to someone's sex is illegal or something.

Weird.

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