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Linda Bellos arrested **Title edited by MNHQ to make clear that she was in fact 'interviewed under caution'**

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Terfragette69 · 01/05/2018 16:03

So it would appear that Linda has been arrested and interviewed for saying she would protect herself if the tra's attacked.... What the actual fuck?? This is getting ridiculous we need to act!

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WanderinWomb · 02/05/2018 13:39

Thank you Linda.

Terfulike · 02/05/2018 13:40

Thank you for sticking up for women LindaFlowers

Baroquehavoc · 02/05/2018 13:47

DH seems a bit stressed by it though.

Well, he is the one that's going to have to organise prison visits. Wink

I suspect this is just a group of people sending warning shots out, and you happened to get caught up with it.

I'm thankful I'm not on twitter, if I said what i thought there, I'd be facing a stretch of hard labour in Serbia.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 13:50

Maybe they send out the "this person said something rude on Twitter please arrest them" requests to lots of different police departments but only some are ridiculous enough to actually do anything with the complaints other than file them in the circular cabinet.

JessicaJonesJacket · 02/05/2018 13:58

Thank you Linda Flowers

And thank you OnTheList Flowers

The police should be embarrassed at their complicity in male harrassment of women.

Popchyk · 02/05/2018 13:58

I'm sorry that happened to you, OnTheList.

This link states that 29 online transgender hate crimes were recorded in England and Wales in the year 2016 - 2017. Which is a small amount.

Home Office Statistical Bulletin

I suspect that we are seeing a lot of transgender hate crime being reported (particularly online supposed hate crime), but very few instances of it being prosecuted. Because it is absolute nonsense.

OlennasWimple · 02/05/2018 14:18

Flowers @LindaBellos99 and @OnTheList

I sort of feel I should be doing more on Twitter to challenge the worst of the TRA narrative, as I'm not in the UK and, well, let's just say that the police here are not LGBT friendly

pamish · 02/05/2018 14:22

What we may forget is that transgender people do get online hate attacks. It's just that it's not coming from feminists. One notable example was on the FB post from Channel4 of their interview with Lily Madigan, back when the Lily story first broke. The FB comments went to hundreds, many of them mocking Lily and TWs in general, some of them threatening eg that Lily should Die In A Fire. (They may have been removed since.) It's probably even worse on Twitter. But the TRAs are targeting feminists, as we are making a political case against changes to the law, not spewing out nasty random attacks.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 14:25

A bit OT but what the hell is the deal with angry men wanting to burn people alive? Why that form of murder in particular? DH read this weird criminal profiling thing and apparently a tendency towards arson coincides with still wetting the bed as an adult, which was one of those weird facts that sticks in your brain because what?

MNHQ please note that I am referring here to the people making the threats, not to LM.

Wanderabout · 02/05/2018 14:35

What we may forget is that transgender people do get online hate attacks. It's just that it's not coming from feminists.

This is important. It must be horrible to be attacked like that. And is clearly unacceptable in a decent society.

Surely the TRAs should be devoting their considerable energy to stopping these genuine hate attacks?

Attempts to silence debate about women's rights and medical ethics is not going to help their cause.

Melamin · 02/05/2018 14:42

Flowers LindaBellos99 and OnTheList

You would have thought that after deciding there were no charges in the Posie case, (which was reasonably visible as they go and a supposed 'test case'), that the CPS would be a bit Hmm about all the reports landing on their desk with spurious charges that they have to assess. It is going to cost them a lot of money to deal with all this if the law does actually change.

Popchyk · 02/05/2018 14:48

I had a quick look and our friends the West Yorkshire Police have had a FOI request regarding transgender hate crimes for the whole of 2017.

here

They responded as follows:

47 incidents
83 offences
5 arrests
1 person was charged (doesn't say if they were convicted or not, the case might still be ongoing).

It also mentions that some incidents may have been cancelled. I'm guessing that means that they were deemed not serious and flagged as no further action and so didn't even make it into the figures above.

Obviously we can't tell from those figures how many are online hate incidents against transgender people, as opposed to violence against the person, public order, criminal damage and arson.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 14:50

If I had to speculate my guess would be that the majority of incidents involved drunk blokes hassling whichever trans person was unfortunate enough to cross their paths.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 02/05/2018 14:55

If I had to speculate my guess would be that the majority of incidents involved drunk blokes hassling whichever trans person was unfortunate enough to cross their paths

So does this mean that next time this happens to me I can report a misogynistic hate crime?

Popchyk · 02/05/2018 14:59

Yes, it could easily be.

And it could have been just a few people responsible for all of those incidents.

Doesn't tell us much. Apart from the fact that only one person was even charged last year.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 15:01

You could, Yet, but I'm not sure I'd recommend it, particularly if you live in West Yorkshire.

ReginaBlitzkreig · 02/05/2018 15:11

What counts as a hate crime should not vary in seriousness according to who the victim is. As someone who has experienced racist abuse and racially motivated threats of violence in the past, I worry. I don't want the concept of hate crime to be discredited by inapt or selective police action.

R0wantrees · 02/05/2018 15:30

meanwhile on twitter, those who have tweeted that they stand with Linda are also being reported for inciting violence.

twitter.com/RadFemAngryBird/status/991682396130107393

Ereshkigal · 02/05/2018 15:32

So does this mean that next time this happens to me I can report a misogynistic hate crime?

No, because the police don't consider misogyny an aggravating factor.

Ereshkigal · 02/05/2018 15:36

A bit OT but what the hell is the deal with angry men wanting to burn people alive? Why that form of murder in particular?

Burn the witch.

flowersonthepiano · 02/05/2018 15:36

Flowers Linda and OnTheList

TRAs are targeting feminists, as we are making a political case against changes to the law, not spewing out nasty random attacks.

^This^

Lefthanddown · 02/05/2018 15:58

From a police perspective I suppose it helps clear up crime rates.

X complaints re Linda, or OnTheList (is more than one classed as one crime or are they all separate crimes?)

They investigate, then close the case. Looks positive on reported crime stats, plus they're seen as proactively policing hate crimes.

No crime,

Wanderabout · 02/05/2018 15:59

TRAs are targeting feminists, as we are making a political case to uphold our existing sex based rights in the law, not spewing out nasty random attacks.

Wanderabout · 02/05/2018 16:01

Good point Lefthanddown if saying you support Linda Bellos in twitter is a hate crime then how meaningful are the stats going to be?

pamish · 02/05/2018 16:09

I wonder if Linda has had a message of support from her old comrade Jeremy Corbyn, yet? He's already due to return her daily phone calls asking when they can have the meeting he promised on TV.
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