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Linda Bellos arrested **Title edited by MNHQ to make clear that she was in fact 'interviewed under caution'**

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Terfragette69 · 01/05/2018 16:03

So it would appear that Linda has been arrested and interviewed for saying she would protect herself if the tra's attacked.... What the actual fuck?? This is getting ridiculous we need to act!

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BarrackerBarmer · 01/05/2018 16:04

WTF

Do you have a source?

Terfulike · 01/05/2018 16:05

Can you tell us recent peaktrans people a bit about her please

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 01/05/2018 16:05

She has posted about it on Facebook, I have seen it.

christinarossetti · 01/05/2018 16:06

Unusual to post something like that without a link, I would say.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 01/05/2018 16:06
Sad
Wanderabout · 01/05/2018 16:06

Is there a link?

Wanderabout · 01/05/2018 16:07

Would be wise to verify before assuming this is true.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 01/05/2018 16:08

How is this not police harassment? It was perfectly clear she was talking about what she would do if attacked. It was made out to be a threat by people quoting her selectively and misrepresenting the context, which should have been perfectly obvious to the police given that it's all recorded.

CadyHeron · 01/05/2018 16:09

Link?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 01/05/2018 16:11

I think her Facebook page is open, it's on there.

MadMags · 01/05/2018 16:17

Is interviewed under caution the same as being arrested? Voluntarily speaking to police?

LangCleg · 01/05/2018 16:19

I saw someone say that there had been TWO arrests this week for similar stuff to the Posie Parker business. Assuming Linda is one, so who is the other?

Terfragette69 · 01/05/2018 16:21

From her page....
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Police State?

On Saturday the 21st of April 2018 I drove to King’s Lynn to meet, voluntarily 2 Police Officers who wished to interview me under caution regarding words I spoke at a meeting on the issue of Trans Women in York on the 8th November 2017.

What I found out during the course of the interview was that my brief contribution to the discussion was being broadcast on the Internet when I thought that my words were simply being recorded. The police implied that my statement implied or stated I would strike back if attacked are being interpreted as capable of being for a threat to Trans women, that is people who hitherto had been defined as men.

I did say that I would fight back, as I had had to do when I was a small child in London in the 1950’s and 60’s when racists attacked my brother and me. The fight back I was referring to was against those people who attacked Maria McLaren, though I did not know her full name at the time but I had seen the recording of that attack in October at Speakers Corner and it had made we very angry and distressed, especially when I read the increasing demands that some trans young ‘women’ were making within the Labour Party and elsewhere to be considered women and to silence any biological women who are critical of the growing politics of ‘gender’.

On the 8th of November I had driven from my home just outside Norwich and had gone to what I believed was the venue of the Meeting I was to speak at, I found the venue at about 4pm and had given myself enough time to find a place to buy food and relax before the meeting was to start. What I found instead was that the venue had been threatened and that the organisers were about to travel around York to find an alternative venue. I parked my car and joined them in the trip this was necessary because I did not know York and would have found it almost impossible to know where to go.

We did find a Hotel Meeting room available for hire and we went back to the rendezvous point where attendees had been asked to gather before they were told of the new venue. If I was briefed about who else was speaking or that the meeting was being live streamed I did not register these facts. The only relevance was that I would not have spoken about Maria Mc had I known she was speaking at the event. As for the live streaming, I had no idea that this could be done. I say this because I thought that I was speaking only to those present in the room.

I make this latter point because the Police in interviewing me advised that I may have caused alarm to those not in the room who might have interpreted my words as a threat to them, or perhaps as an incitement to harm Trans women. What seems to be forgotten is that physiologically trans women have grown up as to be boys and men, with both male strength and sense of entitlement. I can defend myself if attacked and thankfully have not needed to do so for many decades, but it is important to my independence and autonomy that I feel free to be in any space and situation to express my views. That is what I believed our ‘freedom of expression ‘refers to.

So my time and money are being spent on defending false claims against me and to taking not only my time but that of the police.

It would appear, that men who now call themselves women are entitled to threaten and dominate feminists such as myself and if we speak out of step with their utterances we are ‘transphobes’. Does the right to designate others to apply only to Trans women? Can I call them racists for treating me ‘less favourably’ than they treat white feminists? If so, I assure you my complaint would be under civil, not criminal law and I cannot believe that the use of resources in interviewing me under caution is a proportionate use of public resources. But who am I to consider myself equal to young white men who think they are female?

I have yet to hear whether the police intend to take further action against me and they are/were alarmed that I had an epileptic episode that caused the interview to be curtailed, still I await further police action with interest.

Linda Bellos OBE

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0phelia · 01/05/2018 16:23

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Police State?
On Saturday the 21st of April 2018 I drove to King’s Lynn to meet, voluntarily 2 Police Officers who wished to interview me under caution regarding words I spoke at a meeting on the issue of Trans Women in York on the 8th November 2017. What I found out during the course of the interview was that my brief contribution to the discussion was being broadcast on the Internet when I thought that my words were simply being recorded. The police implied that my statement implied or stated I would strike back if attacked are being interpreted as capable of being for a threat to Trans women, that is people who hitherto had been defined as men.
I did say that I would fight back, as I had had to do when I was a small child in London in the 1950’s and 60’s when racists attacked my brother and me. The fight back I was referring to was against those people who attacked Maria McLaren, though I did not know her full name at the time but I had seen the recording of that attack in October at Speakers Corner and it had made we very angry and distressed, especially when I read the increasing demands that some trans young ‘women’ were making within the Labour Party and elsewhere to be considered women and to silence any biological women who are critical of the growing politics of ‘gender’.
On the 8th of November I had driven from my home just outside Norwich and had gone to what I believed was the venue of the Meeting I was to speak at, I found the venue at about 4pm and had given myself enough time to find a place to buy food and relax before the meeting was to start. What I found instead was that the venue had been threatened and that the organisers were about to travel around York to find an alternative venue. I parked my car and joined them in the trip this was necessary because I did not know York and would have found it almost impossible to know where to go.
We did find a Hotel Meeting room available for hire and we went back to the rendezvous point where attendees had been asked to gather before they were told of the new venue. If I was briefed about who else was speaking or that the meeting was being live streamed I did not register these facts. The only relevance was that I would not have spoken about Maria Mc had I known she was speaking at the event. As for the live streaming, I had no idea that this could be done. I say this because I thought that I was speaking only to those present in the room.
I make this latter point because the Police in interviewing me advised that I may have caused alarm to those not in the room who might hade interpreted my words as a threat to them, or perhaps as an incitement to harm Trans women. What seems to be forgotten is that physiologically trans women have grown up as to be boys and men, with both male strength and sense of entitlement. I can defend myself if attacked and thankfully have not needed to do so for many decades, but it is important to my independence and autonomy that I feel free to be in any space and situation to express my views. That is what I believed our ‘freedom of expression ‘refers to.
So my time and money are being spent on defending false claims against me and to taking not only my time but that of the police.
It would appear, that men who now call themselves women are entitled to threaten and dominate feminists such as myself and if we speak out of step with their utterances we are ‘transphobes’. Does the right to designate others to apply only to Trans women? Can I call them racists for treating me ‘less favourably’ than they treat white feminists? If so, I assure you my complaint would be under civil, not criminal law and I cannot believe that the use of resources in interviewing me under caution is a proportionate use of public resources. But who am I to consider myself equal to young white men who think they are female?
I have yet to hear whether the police intend to take further action against me and they are/were alarmed that I had an epileptic episode that caused the interview to be curtailed, still I await further police action with interest.
Linda Bellos OBE

0phelia · 01/05/2018 16:23

Sorry!
X post well it's there twice now.

Terfragette69 · 01/05/2018 16:23

Her words are so good we did it twice.... Lol

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TerfinUSA · 01/05/2018 16:25

FWIW, I was at a Neighbourhood Watch meeting with the police and the head of the NHW said she had all kinds of weapons that she would use to defend herself if burglars broke in. The police kind of rolled their eyes, but certainly weren't arresting her, even though she was making it clear that she was armed and prepared for conflict.

Popchyk · 01/05/2018 16:27

Do we know who the complainant was?

Did the police inform Linda of that?

Terfragette69 · 01/05/2018 16:29

I assume the complainant would have been someone at the meeting?

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Popchyk · 01/05/2018 16:33

I assumed otherwise, Terf.

"I make this latter point because the Police in interviewing me advised that I may have caused alarm to those not in the room who might hade interpreted my words as a threat to them, or perhaps as an incitement to harm Trans women."

So I'm guessing someone listened to it on the internet and then called the police.

AllyMcBeagle · 01/05/2018 16:33

So she's been interviewed under caution by the police, not arrested?

Nuffaluff · 01/05/2018 16:33

The complainant could be someone who’s just seen it on YouTube.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/05/2018 16:35

Meanwhile how many women per day are subject to male violence and the police turn a blind eye?

BarrackerBarmer · 01/05/2018 16:35

So.
Man stalks women trying to meet
Man threatens women
Man attacks woman
Woman is castigated by judge for 'misgendering' male attacker after the fact

Woman denounces the violence
Woman declares her intent to protect herself in the event of a similar attack
Woman is arrested under caution for her words being a threat to any would-be trans attackers

Tell us again how words are the real violence and this is all simply about women being kind.
Talk to us about being courteous and respecting pronouns.
Tell us again transactivists mean women no harm, and that this isn't the purest of pure misogyny enacted upon women who will not submit?

I'm standing with Linda.

I'm appalled by the crumbling of our society's principles of fairness and truth and democracy.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/05/2018 16:36

I would assume the complainant was somebody monitoring the livestream. This is absolutely disgraceful. What a waste of police time and resources.

Linda Bellos was born in 1950. I've never met her and know very little about her, but from pictures I've seen I'd say she isn't that tall. It is an absolute nonsense to think that she could be a threat to the average young male-bodied person.