Joanna Lumley is terrified for men

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43884163
Can't decide if her quote has been blown out of all proportion by the BBC or if she's genuinely terrified for men's egos, the poor lambs.

I also can't believe this is news.

justone the benefit to you as an individual, is that you get to have your voice heard more than a woman would. Obviously, as crit points out, as a society we all lose (although some of us lose more than others). You might argue that this is not overall a benefit to you because it is negated by the fact that the women you care about are on the other side of the see saw. Therefore that women and men are on the same team, so if one loses the other does too. I would argue that our entire society is predicated on the fact that most men (certainly historically) have not felt this way. In fact they’ve probably felt to to be a double advantage.

And I think the honest feedback thing is a very small price to pay for all the power and money!

Obviously JustOneMan is at less risk of being raped, but he is at increased risk of being murdered/assaulted relative to women. If anything and I know it's not universal there is a cultural taboo against violence towards women, but it's seen as the role of fathers and husbands to see to the safety of 'their' women folk, which feeds into this patriarchal mess further.

Seeing as men are more likely to be murdered than women (and yes by other men I know!) I'm struggling to see the privilege in this equation unless it's a female privilege!? Non-violent men have to both keep their noses clean and survive in a violent world, whilst in the same breath by proxy be responsible for other men's violence whilst simultaneously be more likely to be murdered than women? That's seems like a farcical position quite frankly, and victim blames all the male victims of male violence.

Well murder is not the only form of violence. Murder is very rare. Sexual assault and domestic abuse are common and in the vast majority of cases perpetrated against women. Most men are not going around worrying about getting murdered, while many (most?) women have sexual assault in the back of their minds if they’re alone with a strange man, out at night etc.

I find that when I’m arguing with my lovely gentle dh I sometimes feel a little bit intimidated, simply because he is twice my size and could kill me with his bare hands if he wanted to. I’m sure this impacts on what I say to him. This is not his ‘fault’ but it contributes to a power imbalance in which my voice is slightly diminished.

Do you feel that you're in a position to tell women about their own lives JustOne?

What a load of tosh just. It is not "more or less equal" and you know it.

crit the difference is even though men are at higher risk of murder and violence, society doesn't constrain men's activity to avoid this happening. It isn't implied that men bought the violence on themselves by being out alone after dark, for example.

The threat of male violence isn't used as a stick to get men to behave in the same way as it is for women.

While it is true that men kill men at a higher rate than they kill women I do not find this in any way reassuring or even a mitigating factor in male violence against women.

JustOneMan, I respectfully suggest that your experience is so severely limited as to be useless as an example of anything.

10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

Do you feel in a position to tell women about their own lives JustOne? Do you feel you have more knowledge about what life is like for a woman than a woman does?

Women are telling you about their lives and you're refuting it.

When was your last data-point in these industries? Ten years ago?
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That is very funny.
Yesterday at work in point of fact lol

Here, just for you just
Gotta love a man posting random anecdata as fact on the feminism board

home.kpmg.com/uk/en/home/insights/2016/07/revisiting-the-executive-pipeline.html

I'm still curious about what makes you feel justified in telling women about their own lives JustOne?

Just to let you know JustOne, it's really not unusual for men to try to tell women about their own lives. I've had a man try to tell me I didn't have a vaginal tear during the birth of my son. That was a bizarre situation.

JustOne you said

However the glass ceiling is no longer ubiquitous, and I don't believe that women entering the workplace today should take it as a given, or be discouraged by out-of-date views on what it's like in today's workplace.

You stated that the glass ceiling is not ubiquitous and you said how should think and feel.

Sorry that should say 'you said how women should think and feel'